

| Subject: | Re: Air Conditioning |
| From: | John Rodgers |
| Date: | Mon, 27 Sep 2021 07:45:00 -0500 |
Those things were replaced but not the hoses. On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 7:38 AM Steve Bonde <seb007@live.com> wrote: > You may want to be careful with this Freon (152a). While it’s considered a > substitute for R 12, it is flammable where 134a is not. > > Molecule size isn’t really the issue. The tetrafluoroethane used in 134a > is much larger than the difluoromethane you’re suggesting without the > flammability. > > R 401a is a mixture of 152a and 124, and has a much lower flammability. > > When you made the change, did you replace the oil, filter, and drier as > well? That was the problem with my pickup. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 26, 2021, at 9:48 PM, John Rodgers <jrodgers113@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > The summer is most gone and so is the need for AC but it sure was nice > to > > have earlier. Back when I had my '88 van, I dutifully switched my system > > over to R-134a because R12 was going out and what little was available > was > > astronomical in cosy. I changed the service fittings, purged the system, > > then vacuumed the system, and added the appropriate amount of 134a. This > > was in spring. By mid summer the refrigerant pressure had dropped and was > > no longer cooling properly. I added 134a and brought it back up to speed. > > By fall of the first year the pressure was back down. This was a > > puzzlement. there was no sign of leakage any where. I didn't refill it as > > cooler weather had set in but I knew the problem had to be solved by > spring > > when I had to service it again. > > > > During the winter I stumbled across a discussion about molecule size of > > various refrigerants and how their sized was affected by hose design. It > > would seem that 134a has much smaller molecule size than R12, and > > consequently the stuff over time would leak right through the old > original > > hoses. And the original hoses is what I had. While pondering this > > situation I stumbled on a video of Dustaway keyboard and computer cleaner > > being used as a refrigerant to service the AC SYSTEM. Supposedly the > specs > > were similar to R-12 at least in molecule size so there should be only > > minimum leakage. It works great as a refrigerant cooling with the best of > > them. and I haven't changed or added to the system for a couple of years. > > You can find videos on Youtube about this. And if you decided to try it, > > make sure your can says on it somewhere CAS 75-37-6 >
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