

| Subject: | Re: Air Conditioning |
| From: | John Rodgers |
| Date: | Mon, 27 Sep 2021 07:51:51 -0500 |
I know of no one, no example, of anyone having a flame or fire problem with using the CAS 75/HFC152a. If you know of any ACTUAL l cases I certainly would like to know, and read the case history about it. On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 7:45 AM John Rodgers <jrodgers113@gmail.com> wrote: > Those things were replaced but not the hoses. > > On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 7:38 AM Steve Bonde <seb007@live.com> wrote: > >> You may want to be careful with this Freon (152a). While it’s considered >> a substitute for R 12, it is flammable where 134a is not. >> >> Molecule size isn’t really the issue. The tetrafluoroethane used in 134a >> is much larger than the difluoromethane you’re suggesting without the >> flammability. >> >> R 401a is a mixture of 152a and 124, and has a much lower flammability. >> >> When you made the change, did you replace the oil, filter, and drier as >> well? That was the problem with my pickup. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Sep 26, 2021, at 9:48 PM, John Rodgers <jrodgers113@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > The summer is most gone and so is the need for AC but it sure was nice >> to >> > have earlier. Back when I had my '88 van, I dutifully switched my system >> > over to R-134a because R12 was going out and what little was available >> was >> > astronomical in cosy. I changed the service fittings, purged the >> system, >> > then vacuumed the system, and added the appropriate amount of 134a. This >> > was in spring. By mid summer the refrigerant pressure had dropped and >> was >> > no longer cooling properly. I added 134a and brought it back up to >> speed. >> > By fall of the first year the pressure was back down. This was a >> > puzzlement. there was no sign of leakage any where. I didn't refill it >> as >> > cooler weather had set in but I knew the problem had to be solved by >> spring >> > when I had to service it again. >> > >> > During the winter I stumbled across a discussion about molecule size of >> > various refrigerants and how their sized was affected by hose design. It >> > would seem that 134a has much smaller molecule size than R12, and >> > consequently the stuff over time would leak right through the old >> original >> > hoses. And the original hoses is what I had. While pondering this >> > situation I stumbled on a video of Dustaway keyboard and computer >> cleaner >> > being used as a refrigerant to service the AC SYSTEM. Supposedly the >> specs >> > were similar to R-12 at least in molecule size so there should be only >> > minimum leakage. It works great as a refrigerant cooling with the best >> of >> > them. and I haven't changed or added to the system for a couple of >> years. >> > You can find videos on Youtube about this. And if you decided to try it, >> > make sure your can says on it somewhere CAS 75-37-6 >> >
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