Great post Eric. And since I live in Alabama the concept of winter storage
is academic anyway ; )

Jim

On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 9:34 AM Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net> wrote:

> Yes,
>
>         Great discussion!
>
>         There is often more then one right answer to a question.  And we
> get to make our choices based on info given and our own thoughts and needs.
>
>         A couple years ago a friend gave me several things from a garage
> full of hoarded items.  I was handed several cases of oil from way back in
> the time when made in round cans.  Even a metal opener with spout.
>
> I asked this list and did research and found the oil was as good as it was
> when new.  As good as the standard of the day.
>
> I gave it to several VW friends running air cooled and I think one
> vanagon.  It was 20/50 grade.
>
> It  was happily put to it’s original purpose with no ill effects.
>
>         The oil was good because it had not been opened.
>
> Call me silly but I usually change the oil depending on the miles when
> ever that is.  But, If I have the option I do change it in the spring after
> storage.  It just feels nice to start the season with known clean oil.
>
> Eric Caron
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 11, 2021, at 8:42 AM, Jim. Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >
> > Ergo is you change oil before storage in winter, there is no reason to
> > change it again when it comes spring driving time. I think that issue was
> > at the heart of this thread, so I wasn’t picking your thread apart. I am
> > just trying to cut through the mysticism and find out if oil goes bad
> > sitting over a winter. On the two counts you and I have discussed, I’d
> say
> > it does not.
> >
> > Say, this list still has some life in it! This discussion takes me back
> 20
> > years.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 9:48 PM Geoffrey Toye <geoffreytoye@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, if you change the oil before storage then there will be no blowby
> gas
> >> during storage.  If you don't, then the old oil will have seen lots of
> >> blowby gas before storage.
> >>
> >> Yes, oil cans don't have an expiration date. The antioxidants are
> consumed
> >> by an operating engine.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 5:43 PM Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> In response to David’s welcome and detailed analysis of acidity,
> water
> >>> gets
> >>>> into the oil system by way of the blow by gasses that pass the piston
> >>> rings.
> >>>
> >>> So, if the car isn’t being driven during storage there can be no
> blowby.
> >>> Hence no water in the oil. So scratch that reason, right?
> >>>>
> >>>> Oil contains anti oxidants that are life limited. Old oil cannot
> protect
> >>>> your engine.
> >>>
> >>> I have never seen an expiration date on a can of oil. So scratch that
> >>> reason as well.
> >>>
> >>> I could be wrong of course but I can’t see these so-called threats
> being
> >>> realized.
> >>>
> >>> Jim
> >>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>