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> On Oct 11, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Jim. Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Great post Eric. And since I live in Alabama the concept of winter storage
> is academic anyway ; )
> 
> Jim
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 9:34 AM Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes,
>> 
>>        Great discussion!
>> 
>>        There is often more then one right answer to a question.  And we
>> get to make our choices based on info given and our own thoughts and needs.
>> 
>>        A couple years ago a friend gave me several things from a garage
>> full of hoarded items.  I was handed several cases of oil from way back in
>> the time when made in round cans.  Even a metal opener with spout.
>> 
>> I asked this list and did research and found the oil was as good as it was
>> when new.  As good as the standard of the day.
>> 
>> I gave it to several VW friends running air cooled and I think one
>> vanagon.  It was 20/50 grade.
>> 
>> It  was happily put to it’s original purpose with no ill effects.
>> 
>>        The oil was good because it had not been opened.
>> 
>> Call me silly but I usually change the oil depending on the miles when
>> ever that is.  But, If I have the option I do change it in the spring after
>> storage.  It just feels nice to start the season with known clean oil.
>> 
>> Eric Caron
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Oct 11, 2021, at 8:42 AM, Jim. Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ergo is you change oil before storage in winter, there is no reason to
>>> change it again when it comes spring driving time. I think that issue was
>>> at the heart of this thread, so I wasn’t picking your thread apart. I am
>>> just trying to cut through the mysticism and find out if oil goes bad
>>> sitting over a winter. On the two counts you and I have discussed, I’d
>> say
>>> it does not.
>>> 
>>> Say, this list still has some life in it! This discussion takes me back
>> 20
>>> years.
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 9:48 PM Geoffrey Toye <geoffreytoye@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yes, if you change the oil before storage then there will be no blowby
>> gas
>>>> during storage.  If you don't, then the old oil will have seen lots of
>>>> blowby gas before storage.
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, oil cans don't have an expiration date. The antioxidants are
>> consumed
>>>> by an operating engine.
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 5:43 PM Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> In response to David’s welcome and detailed analysis of acidity,
>> water
>>>>> gets
>>>>>> into the oil system by way of the blow by gasses that pass the piston
>>>>> rings.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, if the car isn’t being driven during storage there can be no
>> blowby.
>>>>> Hence no water in the oil. So scratch that reason, right?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Oil contains anti oxidants that are life limited. Old oil cannot
>> protect
>>>>>> your engine.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have never seen an expiration date on a can of oil. So scratch that
>>>>> reason as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I could be wrong of course but I can’t see these so-called threats
>> being
>>>>> realized.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jim
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>>