

| Subject: | Re: vanagon Digest - 8 Oct 2021 to 9 Oct 2021 (#2021-285) |
| From: | Geoffrey Toye |
| Date: | Mon, 11 Oct 2021 10:56:48 -0400 |
Okay, I see where you're going Jim. No worries and I think you're right. The oil should be in good shape in the spring if changed before winter storage, even though it's not in the sealed factory container. I use the winter oil for a few local runs/timing checks etc. before changing while getting ready for the season. In the spring I change the oil only and not the filter since the filter will have seen little service since the pre-storage oil change, even though it will retain some of the winter oil. If I had to skip one of the oil changes it would be the spring one for sure. On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 8:42 AM Jim. Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote: > Ergo is you change oil before storage in winter, there is no reason to > change it again when it comes spring driving time. I think that issue was > at the heart of this thread, so I wasn’t picking your thread apart. I am > just trying to cut through the mysticism and find out if oil goes bad > sitting over a winter. On the two counts you and I have discussed, I’d say > it does not. > > Say, this list still has some life in it! This discussion takes me back 20 > years. > > Jim > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 9:48 PM Geoffrey Toye <geoffreytoye@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Yes, if you change the oil before storage then there will be no blowby >> gas during storage. If you don't, then the old oil will have seen lots of >> blowby gas before storage. >> >> Yes, oil cans don't have an expiration date. The antioxidants are >> consumed by an operating engine. >> >> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 5:43 PM Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> > In response to David’s welcome and detailed analysis of acidity, >>> water gets >>> > into the oil system by way of the blow by gasses that pass the piston >>> rings. >>> >>> So, if the car isn’t being driven during storage there can be no blowby. >>> Hence no water in the oil. So scratch that reason, right? >>> > >>> > Oil contains anti oxidants that are life limited. Old oil cannot >>> protect >>> > your engine. >>> >>> I have never seen an expiration date on a can of oil. So scratch that >>> reason as well. >>> >>> I could be wrong of course but I can’t see these so-called threats being >>> realized. >>> >>> Jim >>> > >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>
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