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Subject:Re: Winches, response blocked again!
From:David McNeely
Date:Sat, 20 Nov 2021 12:41:28 -0800

Mark, how do you contact Matt's if you are back in it?  Mobile phone
service doesn't work everywhere.

On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 12:29 PM Mark Belanger <mbelanger@gmail.com> wrote:

> If you off-road near Utah, you can always count on Matt's Off Road
> Recovery <https://www.youtube.com/c/MattsOffRoadRecovery>, though I've
> never seen him tackle a Syncro...
>
>
> -MB
>
> On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 8:51 AM David McNeely <davmcneely40@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Well, I suppose the original poster was talking about traveling to back
>> country locations where a towing service is unlikely to also travel to, or
>> even be reachable.  That said, yes, if one is sticking to regular road
>> travel, then the money and effort invested in a winch and the upgrades
>> needed to make it work well are definite overkill.  I would think a winch
>> would be something that one would consider only if one's travels take one
>> to places unreachable by the vast majority of people.
>>
>> Just my thought.  mcneely
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 7:08 AM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I have to say I do like those bumper options from Westy World. A bit
>> > pricey.
>> > There is a lot to be considered before going for a winch. To some extent
>> > unless your plan is a form of sport, competition, or access to difficult
>> > places a winch should really be considered a last resort to use or even
>> > have. If your use is normal on road driving during difficult weather
>> every
>> > other option should be considered to avoid needing a winch in the first
>> > place. Of course the first is tires for conditions expected. Then since
>> a
>> > Syncro upgrade is not reasonable then go for some type of posit traction
>> > differential.
>> >
>> > For the Vanagon the front suspension does not do that well with the
>> > extended overhung load of weight added up front. Also you need to
>> consider
>> > the electrical requirements. Under load winches will draw significant
>> > current some as high as 400 amps. Even the small ones at 100 A/H or so
>> need
>> > significant battery power available. Larger batteries and at a minimum
>> > upgraded alternator wiring needs to part of the plan. I often suggest
>> low
>> > voltage cut out to stop it when the alternator can't keep up.
>> >
>> > Than of course there is learning how to use one safely. Rigging set up
>> and
>> > calculating forces may be required. The cable should be blanket for hard
>> > pulls. Need to know when cables, chains, or stretch straps are needed. A
>> > snapped cable can cause some serious injuries. For roadside getting
>> stuck a
>> > towing service is often a good choice.
>> >
>> > Dennis
>> >
>>
>
>
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