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Subject:Re: Another D15 connector failure example- The fix!
From:OlRivrRat
Date:Mon, 28 Feb 2022 19:50:56 -0700

I’m curious AB just what doubt You might be referring to,, I have no doubt that D15 Can Be & Is 

sometimes a serious Problem Child when it comes to the Items that are connected to that circuit,, I do

however hold some doubt that it was that obviously faulty D15 that was the cause of that fire ~

        Might have been but also might not have been ~

> On 27 Feb , 2022, at 5:20 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA> wrote:
> 
> Just to update, I was at the burned out van stripping more stuff. Took a pic of the female side of the D connector.
> If you doubted before, this might sway :-)
> 
> https://shufti.blog/2022/02/19/vanagon-another-d15-connector-failure/
> 
> Alistair 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 3:25 PM, Jim. Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> It must be pretty rare, the unfused failure that might cause a fire. I have
>> driven about every kind of VW and many many other cars--rarely owning them
>> in the same decade as they were manufactured in--and don't ever recall a
>> problem. Except for a Karmann Ghia that burnt to the ground, me, wife and
>> infant child fleeing onto the roadway--but that was a battery fire.
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>>> On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 11:24 AM David McNeely <davmcneely40@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow!  I guess I didn't realize this.  Given the quite large number of fuzes
>>> in every vehicle I have ever had, going back to the early sixties, I
>>> thought everything was protected.  I do remember that a large amperage fuze
>>> block started to appear in vehicles some time in the eighties or early
>>> nineties.
>>> 
>>> So, if one is part way to a destination when the failure occurs and stops
>>> one from going further, that might or might not be better than being stuck
>>> at a starting point.  In the latter case, little or no damage may have
>>> occurred, other than to the fuze, while part way there and there is a fire
>>> .... .
>>> 
>>> Oh, well.
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 8:17 AM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Following old school wisdom I guess the thought at one point was to let
>>> it
>>>> run to failure! There are many wire circuits in the VW and other cars
>>> that
>>>> do not have any form of over current protection. Many American vehicles
>>> use
>>>> a fuse link or other device at the main battery-starter connection to
>>>> protect most everything except the starter itself. For the Vanagon while
>>>> most every light bulb has fuse protection to the bulb or even filament
>>>> level the ignition and fuel system is completely unfused. Same for all
>>> the
>>>> wiring up most of the switches and even after the switches to the fuse
>>> box.
>>>> 
>>>> Dennis
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> On Behalf Of
>>> Gene P
>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2022 1:03 AM
>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>> Subject: Re: Another D15 connector failure example- The fix!
>>>> 
>>>> I just noticed nobody answered that question “why isn’t the ignition
>>>> circuit fused?”, so I’ll take a shot at it.
>>>> 
>>>> Because if it was fused, a burned fuse would prevent the engine from
>>>> starting.
>>>> It follows the logic that you would be better off being at least part way
>>>> to where you’d need to be to get the fire damage fixed.
>>>> 
>>>> gp
>>>> 
>>>> ‘87 T3
>>>> ‘81 R65
>>>> ‘61 TR3
>>>> 
>>>> From: Alistair Bell
>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 9:50 AM
>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>> Subject: Re: Another D15 connector failure example- The fix!
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 20, 2022, at 8:49 AM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>> One question though, why isn’t the ignition circuit fused?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Alistair
>>>> 
>>>