I don’t think I said the d15 issue caused the fire. There were musings as to whether an engine fire could cause the d15 damage.

I think the fire and the connector unrelated.

I do think that 86.5 model year and newer vans should have the d15 connector checked.

Ab
> On Feb 28, 2022, at 6:51 PM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>     I’m curious AB just what doubt You might be referring to,, I have no doubt that D15 Can Be & Is 
> 
> sometimes a serious Problem Child when it comes to the Items that are connected to that circuit,, I do
> 
> however hold some doubt that it was that obviously faulty D15 that was the cause of that fire ~
> 
>    Might have been but also might not have been ~
> 
> 
> 
>> On 27 Feb , 2022, at 5:20 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA> wrote:
>> 
>> Just to update, I was at the burned out van stripping more stuff. Took a pic of the female side of the D connector.
>> If you doubted before, this might sway :-)
>> 
>> https://shufti.blog/2022/02/19/vanagon-another-d15-connector-failure/
>> 
>> Alistair 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 3:25 PM, Jim. Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It must be pretty rare, the unfused failure that might cause a fire. I have
>>> driven about every kind of VW and many many other cars--rarely owning them
>>> in the same decade as they were manufactured in--and don't ever recall a
>>> problem. Except for a Karmann Ghia that burnt to the ground, me, wife and
>>> infant child fleeing onto the roadway--but that was a battery fire.
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 11:24 AM David McNeely <davmcneely40@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Wow!  I guess I didn't realize this.  Given the quite large number of fuzes
>>>> in every vehicle I have ever had, going back to the early sixties, I
>>>> thought everything was protected.  I do remember that a large amperage fuze
>>>> block started to appear in vehicles some time in the eighties or early
>>>> nineties.
>>>> 
>>>> So, if one is part way to a destination when the failure occurs and stops
>>>> one from going further, that might or might not be better than being stuck
>>>> at a starting point.  In the latter case, little or no damage may have
>>>> occurred, other than to the fuze, while part way there and there is a fire
>>>> .... .
>>>> 
>>>> Oh, well.
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 8:17 AM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Following old school wisdom I guess the thought at one point was to let
>>>> it
>>>>> run to failure! There are many wire circuits in the VW and other cars
>>>> that
>>>>> do not have any form of over current protection. Many American vehicles
>>>> use
>>>>> a fuse link or other device at the main battery-starter connection to
>>>>> protect most everything except the starter itself. For the Vanagon while
>>>>> most every light bulb has fuse protection to the bulb or even filament
>>>>> level the ignition and fuel system is completely unfused. Same for all
>>>> the
>>>>> wiring up most of the switches and even after the switches to the fuse
>>>> box.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dennis
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> On Behalf Of
>>>> Gene P
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2022 1:03 AM
>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Another D15 connector failure example- The fix!
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just noticed nobody answered that question “why isn’t the ignition
>>>>> circuit fused?”, so I’ll take a shot at it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Because if it was fused, a burned fuse would prevent the engine from
>>>>> starting.
>>>>> It follows the logic that you would be better off being at least part way
>>>>> to where you’d need to be to get the fire damage fixed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> gp
>>>>> 
>>>>> ‘87 T3
>>>>> ‘81 R65
>>>>> ‘61 TR3
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Alistair Bell
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 9:50 AM
>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Another D15 connector failure example- The fix!
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2022, at 8:49 AM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>> One question though, why isn’t the ignition circuit fused?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Alistair
>>>>> 
>>>> 
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