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Subject:Re: Van insolation
From:OlRivrRat
Date:Mon, 4 Apr 2022 19:09:22 -0600

& even if it does OutGas,, 1 side is sealed by the Tin it is stuck to &

the other side is Aluminum so that only leaves the perimeter edge which

is slightly less than 1/20in thick that would be able to OG ~ Doubtful that

I’m going to be worring about it much @all ~

> On 4 Apr , 2022, at 5:34 PM, Dan N <dn92610@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> Yes... I use it and don't smell anything... and in our van there is a lot
> of plastic that smells... :-)
> 
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 4:00 PM Jim. Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I doubt this is an issue worth worrying about. There is SO much more mass
>> of plastics, rubber and other petroleum products in most cars that the
>> threat of toxic fumes is overwhelming compared to a roll or two of Seal &
>> Peel. Neither I nor any passenger has ever mentioned an odor from that
>> product. Probably better for you than spending the night in a home with
>> "modern" fabrics and wood products. Anyway, whatever outgassing might occur
>> has likely occurred many years ago.
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 11:02 AM Adam Grove <roverini@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> A concern I have about using products for homes is that these are not
>>> designed to be used inside due to off gassing of chemicals.  I think
>>> it would be best to stick to automotive products which (ostensibly)
>>> don't have these downsides.  I have successfully used a number of
>>> different products over the years.  Mass matters if you want to stop
>>> noise.  Bulk and space matters if you want temperature insulation.  I
>>> usually use both.  An adhesive mass loaded vinyl product followed by
>>> Havelock Wool insulation (non-toxic, resistant to mold etc)  The Wool
>>> should only be used in dry cavities - not in the font doors for
>>> example.
>>> 
>>> Adam
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 1:35 AM Dan N <dn92610@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> hi Jeff,
>>>> 
>>>> This is Peel & Seal from Lowes
>>>> 
>>> 
>> https://www.lowes.com/pd/Peel-Seal-Instant-Waterproof-Repairs-6-in-x-25-ft-Aluminum-Roll-Flashing/1018733
>>>> 
>>>> It sticks by itself on any surface, you don't need any brush on
>> adhesive.
>>>> Best to do is heat the panel of your van lightly with a heat gun to get
>>> it
>>>> warm then put the Peel & Seal on.
>>>> I didn't notice any sag or run on because I never opened the panel to
>>> check.
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Apr 3, 2022 at 11:01 PM Jeff Palmer <w.jeff.palmer@icloud.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Just so I’m clear - peel and seal is a wrap of some sort?  When I
>>> google
>>>>> it I see a wrap but also a can that I assume you apply with a brush?
>>>>> 
>>>>> If someone has a link to the Lowes product it would be appreciated!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Only downside I have read about is that it may sag on vertical
>>> surfaces.
>>>>> ORR sounds like that’s what you’ve done?  Any bad experiences with
>>> sagging?
>>>>> (I’m talking about the van now!)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 3, 2022, at 10:42 AM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>       I’ve installed Peel & Seal on My 90Westy in all 4 Doors & on
>>>>> several Friends Vans where I usually
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> put in Rear Quarters as well as All Doors,, It lessens the ability
>>> of an
>>>>> area of Tin to resonate sound & it
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> does that amazingly well ~ Not even necessary to cover entire area,
>>> just
>>>>> whatever You can conveniently
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> get to ~
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2 Apr , 2022, at 5:11 PM, Richard Koerner <
>> rjkinpb@SBCGLOBAL.NET
>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The stuff at Lowe's is called "Peel and Seal".  Peel & Seal
>> Instant
>>>>> Waterproof Repairs 6-in x 25-ft Aluminum Roll Flashing Lowes.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> |  |  |
>>>>>>> Peel & Seal Instant Waterproof Repairs ...
>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I used it in the cabin area of van:  pedestals, floor, inside
>> doors,
>>>>> and also inside Slider.  Quite happy.  I also used it on the front
>> area
>>>>> under dashboard; unfortunately, this sheet metal area must get pretty
>>> warm
>>>>> from front radiator blow by, and as a result, evidence of "tar"
>>> dripping
>>>>> down on the sides into footwells.  I clean it up, and it later
>>> re-appears.
>>>>> But, even then, I have had no "tar" odors.  It's been in place over
>> 12
>>>>> years.  And yes, very significant road noise reduction, so worth it
>> to
>>> me.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  On Friday, April 1, 2022, 06:41:43 PM PDT, Gil Ngai <
>>>>> eyebawlgil@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What is roof patch? can you send a link?
>>>>>>> Do you mean roofing tar?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> •••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••
>>>>>>> *GIL NGAI* • *I TELL GOOD STORIES*
>>>>>>> *filmmaker • DP • **chief storyteller • instructor*
>>>>>>> * www.dayonemedia.ca <http://www.dayone-media.com/> *
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 6:49 PM Stephen Grisanti <
>> bike2vcu@yahoo.com
>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I did years ago on our ‘87 Westy, had to order directly from the
>>>>> source in
>>>>>>>> Alberta. Freight runs the total up considerably so get enough
>>> initially
>>>>>>>> that you need not reorder.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> When mine did run out I used Roof Patch from Lowe’s that folks
>>> belittle
>>>>>>>> but the stuff looks (and smells) identical. Narrower roll and
>> about
>>>>> half
>>>>>>>> the price. Seemed no different otherwise.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Stephen
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Mobile
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2022, at 7:37 PM, Gil Ngai <eyebawlgil@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> B-Quiet Sound is having a 20% off sale now through the weekend.
>>>>>>>>> Has anyone used this stuff?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> B-Quiet.com
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> They advised me for a Vanagon to get one roll of Ultimate 50 and
>>> one
>>>>>>>> sheet
>>>>>>>>> of VComp
>>>>>>>>> should be enough to do the rear engine area, front doors and
>> part
>>> of
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> floors with the Ultimate and then put the VComp over the rear
>>> bench.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Gil
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> •••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••
>>>>>>>>> *GIL NGAI* • *I TELL GOOD STORIES*
>>>>>>>>> *filmmaker • DP • **chief storyteller • instructor*
>>>>>>>>> * www.dayonemedia.ca <http://www.dayone-media.com/> *
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 2:42 PM Karl Mullendore <
>>>>>>>> tdiguru@westyventures.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The first batch I bought out in Baltimore was about 35 bags,
>>> then a
>>>>> few
>>>>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>>>>> later found another place in PA that still had 47. I bought all
>>> of it
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> sold
>>>>>>>>>> most of it to others for their projects. I guess I should have
>>> left a
>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>> bags in MD.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>