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Subject:Re: Van insolation
From:Jeff Palmer
Date:Mon, 4 Apr 2022 22:08:53 -0500

Thanks Boston Dave - I got both. But many messages go automatically into Junk, including my own :)
Jeff

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> On Apr 4, 2022, at 8:40 AM, ddbjorkman@verizon.net wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Jeff.  No.  The pictures can be deceiving.  Peel and stick is a strip with aluminum backing on one side and waxed paper on the sticky side which is pulled off, discarded and the sticky side is placed on a clean surface and pressed down.  There is no can.  It just looks like one in the pictures.  I believe there is a video that is much clearer.
> 
> Good luck.  This has been a thought provoking thread for me also.
> 
> Dave B.
> the Boston one
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Palmer <w.jeff.palmer@ICLOUD.COM>
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Sent: Mon, Apr 4, 2022 2:01 am
> Subject: Re: [VANAGON] Van insolation
> 
> Just so I’m clear - peel and seal is a wrap of some sort?  When I google it I see a wrap but also a can that I assume you apply with a brush?
> 
> If someone has a link to the Lowes product it would be appreciated!
> 
> Only downside I have read about is that it may sag on vertical surfaces.  ORR sounds like that’s what you’ve done?  Any bad experiences with sagging? (I’m talking about the van now!)
> 
> Thanks
> Jeff
> 
> 
> > On Apr 3, 2022, at 10:42 AM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
> > 
> >        I’ve installed Peel & Seal on My 90Westy in all 4 Doors & on several Friends Vans where I usually
> > 
> > put in Rear Quarters as well as All Doors,, It lessens the ability of an area of Tin to resonate sound & it
> > 
> > does that amazingly well ~ Not even necessary to cover entire area, just whatever You can conveniently
> > 
> > get to ~
> > 
> > 
> >> On 2 Apr , 2022, at 5:11 PM, Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@SBCGLOBAL.NET> wrote:
> >> 
> >> The stuff at Lowe's is called "Peel and Seal".  Peel & Seal Instant Waterproof Repairs 6-in x 25-ft Aluminum Roll Flashing Lowes.com
> >> 
> >> |  |  | 
> >> Peel & Seal Instant Waterproof Repairs ...
> >> |
> >> 
> >> I used it in the cabin area of van:  pedestals, floor, inside doors, and also inside Slider.  Quite happy.  I also used it on the front area under dashboard; unfortunately, this sheet metal area must get pretty warm from front radiator blow by, and as a result, evidence of "tar" dripping down on the sides into footwells.  I clean it up, and it later re-appears.  But, even then, I have had no "tar" odors.  It's been in place over 12 years.  And yes, very significant road noise reduction, so worth it to me.
> >> 
> >> 
> >>  On Friday, April 1, 2022, 06:41:43 PM PDT, Gil Ngai <eyebawlgil@gmail.com> wrote:  
> >> 
> >> What is roof patch? can you send a link?
> >> Do you mean roofing tar?
> >> 
> >> •••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••
> >> *GIL NGAI* • *I TELL GOOD STORIES*
> >> *filmmaker • DP • **chief storyteller • instructor*
> >> * www.dayonemedia.ca <http://www.dayone-media.com/> *
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 6:49 PM Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I did years ago on our ‘87 Westy, had to order directly from the source in
> >>> Alberta. Freight runs the total up considerably so get enough initially
> >>> that you need not reorder.
> >>> 
> >>> When mine did run out I used Roof Patch from Lowe’s that folks belittle
> >>> but the stuff looks (and smells) identical. Narrower roll and about half
> >>> the price. Seemed no different otherwise.
> >>> 
> >>> Stephen
> >>> 
> >>> Mobile
> >>> 
> >>>> On Apr 1, 2022, at 7:37 PM, Gil Ngai <eyebawlgil@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> B-Quiet Sound is having a 20% off sale now through the weekend.
> >>>> Has anyone used this stuff?
> >>>> 
> >>>> B-Quiet.com
> >>>> 
> >>>> They advised me for a Vanagon to get one roll of Ultimate 50 and one
> >>> sheet
> >>>> of VComp
> >>>> should be enough to do the rear engine area, front doors and part of the
> >>>> floors with the Ultimate and then put the VComp over the rear bench.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Gil
> >>>> 
> >>>> •••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••
> >>>> *GIL NGAI* • *I TELL GOOD STORIES*
> >>>> *filmmaker • DP • **chief storyteller • instructor*
> >>>> * www.dayonemedia.ca <http://www.dayone-media.com/> *
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 2:42 PM Karl Mullendore <
> >>> tdiguru@westyventures.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> The first batch I bought out in Baltimore was about 35 bags, then a few
> >>>>> years
> >>>>> later found another place in PA that still had 47. I bought all of it
> >>> and
> >>>>> sold
> >>>>> most of it to others for their projects. I guess I should have left a
> >>> few
> >>>>> more
> >>>>> bags in MD.
> >>>>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>