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Subject:Re: Westy break in, only vehicle registration (Canadian) stolen
From:Jeff Palmer
Date:Sat, 23 Apr 2022 15:47:19 -0500

I was thinking the same thing :) Maybe today is the day to buy a lottery ticket!

Jeff

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> On Apr 23, 2022, at 12:48 PM, Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear No Tour E US
> 
> A notorious murderer had escaped a Tennessee prison.  He was known to have
> had a fondness for VW campers.  His
> description and mine matched.  !!!!! ???
> 
> How can that even be a thing???
> 
> Police Blotter Notes...
> - -- Noted Markings on Person of Interest: Tattoos VW Type 2 or Type 3 or
> Type 25 on Back or Bicep -- May also feature letters LOVE  T on the left
> hand digits including thumb and O CAMP on right hand digits including thumb
> - NOTE: Person of Interest will often lay hands flat on counter while
> robbing the gaso  in hopes of commencing a discussion with fellow VANAGON
> owners or enthusiasts about where to buy Vanagon parts, what page of Bently
> that information is on, how to access the online version of Bently with
> that neat parts breakdown, or stealth camp.
> 
> Was last seen escaping from Tennessee Prison in 70hp Chartreuse Microbus,
> NOTE2: Vehicle of escape may be caught up in a convoy.... Ten Four Rubber
> Duck ---
> 
> An aside
> Where I  Live there are very few armed robberies or actual vehicle thefts
> as there are only a choice of two ferry terminals for escape and both ferry
> terminals are on the same single 50 to 60 odd miles of paved road running
> the whole length of the land mass -- there is often a tale told of a
> robbery some years ago where the police simply went to farthest away ferry
> terminal and picked up perps in the waiting to board line up ---
> Having said that petty crime is rampant and nearly anything that can be
> wheel barrowed away or put in a pick up and covered or trailered hidden in
> a covered trailer  such as boats - quads and gensets - those are hot items
> - as well as construction tools
> 
>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 10:38 AM David McNeely <davmcneely40@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Well, the reason would be that the issuing entities, the state and
>> insurance companies, tell owners to do so.  And since I moved to
>> Washington, I do so, but remove them when I am parking the vehicle in some
>> sketchy place.  At home, it is in a locked garage.
>> 
>> I have reported this before, but a long time ago.  When I bought my camper,
>> in Kentucky and lived in Oklahoma, I was driving it home.  In Tennessee, I
>> was stopped by state police, and asked for registration and insurance.  Of
>> course, insurance was my current policy, card in my wallet.  I had not
>> registered the vehicle yet, but had a bill of sale from the seller.  The
>> police officer had to tell me that a registration paper was probably in the
>> glove box, and it was.
>> 
>> When I next looked up, my van was surrounded by multiple police vehicles,
>> blocking me on the highway shoulder.  I was asked to get out, spread eagled
>> on a police vehicle, patted down.  My identification was perused and radio
>> calls concerning both me and the vehicle made.
>> 
>> Finally, I was told what was going on.  A notorious murderer had escaped a
>> Tennessee prison.  He was known to have had a fondness for VW campers.  His
>> description and mine matched.  He was last seen wearing a baseball cap and
>> had a full beard, as did I.  The officers sent me on my way with wishes of
>> good luck traveling.
>> 
>> mcneely
>> 
>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:35 AM James Eaton <jk_eaton@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Goodness, why would anyone leave registration and insurance papers in the
>>> vehicle?  It's more than 20 years ago that the police and insurance
>>> companies here in Canada started advising you never to do this, and issue
>>> multiple 'pink cards' for insurance, so every driver could carry one, and
>>> accepting photocopies of registration papers - again, carried on the
>> driver.
>>> 
>>> James
>>> Ottawa, ON
>>> '91 Westy Weekender
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> on behalf of
>> David
>>> McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM>
>>> Sent: April 22, 2022 11:17 AM
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>> Subject: Re: Westy break in, only vehicle registration (Canadian) stolen
>>> 
>>> I grew up in Texas and lived in Oklahoma for a good part of my life.
>>> Neither of those states requires paperwork to be carried in the vehicle
>>> (well, insurance, but that can be carried in a wallet).  And Texas uses a
>>> windshield sticker for registration, rather than a plate sticker.  These
>>> things reduce the chance of paperwork theft.
>>> 
>>> Sorry you had this occur, Mark.  I hope everything works out.  I hope you
>>> have identity theft protection.  mcneely
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 8:17 PM Mark McCulley <mark@markmcculley.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> One thing thieves will do is go directly to your home as listed on the
>>>> registration figuring that you are shopping or whatever and away from
>>> home.
>>>> This doesn't apply if the van was pilfered over night while parked at
>>> home.
>>>> If I were you I'd carefully watch my credit report for the next year or
>>> so.
>>>> I'm paranoid enough now that I took all registration and identifying
>> info
>>>> out of my vehicles, carry photos of the documents on my smart phone in
>>> case.
>>>> 
>>>> -Mark
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 21, 2022, at 7:19 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I can’t comment on the reasons things were stolen. But Jeeze, you’ve
>>>> been silent for a while Martin.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good to know you’re still working the van :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Alistair
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 21, 2022, at 5:58 PM, poppie.jagersand@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Last night someone broke into my Westy - forced the sliding window,
>>>> popped the screen, then unlocked front door.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> They had rifled through everything, but oddly, only the folder with
>>> the
>>>> registration and insurance were stolen. They left tools and camping
>> gear
>>>> that probably could have netted them hundreds at a pawn shop.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What would they do with a Canadian registration? A web site
>> suggested
>>>> identity theft, but then why break into the van? Why not just steal one
>>> of
>>>> my bills from the mailbox?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Another website suggested someone could call the insurance company
>> and
>>>> mess with my insurance - not sure what they could gain from it other
>> than
>>>> kicks for causing trouble for me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I submitted the Police report - in Edmonton it is just an on-line
>> form
>>>> for theft under $5000. I don't expect they will contact me. (The form
>>>> seemed mostly concerned with if the license plate was stolen, but it is
>>>> still there) I'll also notify my insurance company that the insurance
>>> card
>>>> got legs.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Martin and 82 Westy 1.9TD
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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