The burned orange van I bought with a friend has artificial rain gutters ( arg) for a kayak carrier rack. The args are quite stout plus they continue down, with the appropriate bends, to rest in the van gutter and help support that way.

I’ll see if I can refresh my memory about the brand

Alistair 

> On Apr 25, 2022, at 6:17 PM, Markus Benne <mbenne@m-bass.com> wrote:
> 
> As I re-install the Thule artificial gutters on my westy, I'm struck by how weak and flimsy they and their hardware are.
> Does anyone have a suggestion for a more confidence-inspiring artificial gutter?
> I have thule towers and very long thule crossbars.   I carry a lot of stuff up there...