This is where I usually refer to this analysis by ee Jason :

https://youtu.be/6RhtiPefVzM

Edward
Opel (Chevy) Volt
Formerly multiple VW vans and other VW products including TDI (pre-cheat)

On Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 3:58 PM David McNeely <davmcneely40@gmail.com> wrote:

> Certainly true, also.  But we are moving more to sustainable generation.
> Whether the fossil fuel industry wants it or not, wind and solar are simply
> cheaper to produce than burning for power, and despite environmental
> consequences of manufacturing of the devices, those are still less than
> environmental costs of the extraction of the fuels, their processing, and
> their end use.  Is it still Friday?
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 11:44 AM Bruce Todd <beeceetee@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I imagine the costs will eventually drop as this market and technology
> get
> > explored - but then there is the whole issue of how electricity is
> actually
> > produced and provided - which is not without its own issues and
> hypocrisy.
> >
> > BT
> >
> > On Saturday, April 30, 2022, David McNeely <davmcneely40@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Can't afford a Tesla at $50-60K, but can afford a conversion at $100K?
> >> He did say that he is hoping to get to a scale where he can get the
> price
> >> down to around $30K.  But then we're dealing with a car with an old
> >> chassis/body, too.  Maybe he'll get there.  Meanwhile, new EVs (they're
> not
> >> all Teslas) can be a lot cheaper than what he is selling, if we can just
> >> get enough of them on the market.  For now, I am still driving my 16 yo
> >> Prius.  Building new vehicles has environmental costs, too, so he is
> right
> >> about that.
> >>
> >> I wonder, would converting an old hybrid be cheaper than converting an
> >> old pure IC vehicle?
> >>
> >> At any rate, I am all for getting into the EV future for the sake of us
> >> all.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 9:48 AM Bruce Todd <beeceetee@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Some borderline Friday NVC that fits nicely with the post of the Tesla
> >>> pulling the bus or the bus pushing the Tesla depending whether the
> glass
> >>> is
> >>> half full or empty.  I think retro-fitting existing gas powered motors
> >>> with
> >>> electric alternatives will become a business all to itself...give it 5
> to
> >>> 10 years.
> >>>
> >>> This B.C. company wants to electrify your Porsche, your mini van and
> your
> >>> school bus | Globalnews.ca
> >>>
> >>>
> https://globalnews.ca/news/8797788/vancouver-company-electric-car-conversions/
> >>>
> >>> Bruce
> >>>
> >>
>