

| Subject: | Re: ECU Digital |
| From: | John Rodgers |
| Date: | Sun, 15 May 2022 23:14:39 -0500 |
Sounds like a good plan. On Sun, May 15, 2022 at 7:44 PM Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net> wrote: > Sadly, I think it is for the 2.1 But, that will work out for the owner of > the tool we borrowed it from. He thought it was for a 1.9. The > documentation > Though is not 1.9 but 2.1 > > It also talks a lot about soldering in a capacitor into the air > flow meeter to reduce “vanagon Syndrome”. I’m trying to gently insist we > are not at that point yet in this running issue. > > I don’t know what the solution is but I suspect Dennis is right that we > need to start with the basics and go from there. I suspect it will be that > the last mechanics didn’t really tune it correctly or that there is a > sneaky ground or wiring failure in the mix. > > As My helpers are here only a small amount of time it is helpful for me to > have materials and a direction to follow. Example last visit we didn’t > really understand how to test the O2 sensor. And a lack of seals meant not > checking the injectors. We also didn’t have the correct spray to check > vacuum or air intake. I have these supplies now for the next visit. > > But, any tips on what to have on hand is helpful. > > Example I have a spare temp 2 sensor but didn’t have a gasket for it. I > do now, but I didn’t know it needed one. > > I’m learning as I go. > > Any tips on what is helpful to have on hand? > > I found an ancient compression tester and now have a talking Multi meeter > so fun will be happening. > > Eric Caron > 84 Westfalia > > > > On May 15, 2022, at 10:10 AM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> > wrote: > > > > If I recall this tool was mostly for the 86 and later Digifant. It > probably can also work on the Digi jet. Either the ECU or the harness need > to be modified to use. > > While you are looking for a simple easy to find and fix bullet to solve > your woes, the Digi-Jet is still a fairly simple system and with very few > exceptions most running problems end up being outside the fault of the FI > system. > > > > For the high idle, this is always a result of some combination of > incorrect basic settings, excess or unmetered air getting into the intake. > In addition having a 2.3L which also has a mild cam will rarely work > perfectly on the 1.9 set up. > > > > Start with checking that the throttle body is properly adjusted. It > needs to fully close without the palte sticking in the bore. There is a > stop screw and lock nut for this adjustment. This is extremely critical as > your distributor has both vacuum advance and retard. The plate needs to > close properly to close off the advance port in order for the retard to > work properly. The distributor should also be tested that the vacuum > operated and mechanical advance parts are working. If setting timing at > idle confirmation is needed that the vacuum retard is in fact fully > retarded. Warm, engine, disconnect O2 sensor and use the sensor and meter > to fine tune AFM. Make sure warm up regulator is closing, uses a heater and > engine case temp to close. Set timing 5 ATDC, mixture to ~.5 volt on O2 > Sensor and base idle speed 850-950 rpm. > > > > For the off isle stumble make sure that the closed throttle switch opens > immediately as throttle is opened. If not you go into injector cut off at > ~1350 rpm. Then after that O2 sensor is ignored for a number crankshaft > revolutions. Operation will be wacky. > > > > Since this engine has some miles on it it would be a good idea for a > compression and leak down test. As this combination may also be susceptible > to detonation it is also a good idea to put a camera inside the cylinders > and look for piston damage. Carbon in the intake ports and back of the > intake valves can also cause running problems. > > > > Dennis > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> On Behalf Of > Eric Caron > > Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2022 8:18 AM > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > Subject: ECU Digital > > > > So, I’m still at the start of diagnosing a running issue with high idle > and more importantly loss of power when step-in on the gas at a stop. > > > > But, A friend was just handed a interesting tool he wants to try out on > the 84 running the 1.9 ignition > > > > What do you know about the ECU digitool has the name Darrel Boelher, in > the paperwork. > > > > Has a long ribbon cord to take the device to the dash to watch w while > driving and a LCD screen and lights. > > > > Anyone out there still using this tool and anyone know it’s history or > usefulness? > > > > Eric Caron > > 84 with 1.9 ignition > > 85 with GW management > > >
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