

| Subject: | Re: An electrical thing I never noticed in 20 years of Westy ownership Another Westy Fridge Design Flaw |
| From: | Jeff Palmer |
| Date: | Sat, 30 Jul 2022 17:21:40 -0500 |
Fridge running on gas, switch to electricity but don’t turn off gas, voila! Jeff Been there done that. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 30, 2022, at 3:34 PM, David McNeely <davmcneely40@gmail.com> wrote: > > Dennis, how could this be done? I don't see it given the controls. I > don't have any skin in this game any longer, since I took out the > refrigerator, but given that one has to select one of the settings, how > could it happen that two of them are operable simultaneously? > >> On Sat, Jul 30, 2022 at 12:40 PM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> There is nothing preventing operation of the Fridge on either electric >> source or Propane simultaneously. Yes, the fridge will operate the propane >> burner while either the 12 volt or 120 volt heater is energized. This can >> overheat the fluid and ruin the fridge. >> >> Dennis >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> On Behalf Of Jim >> Felder >> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2022 2:12 PM >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> Subject: Re: An electrical thing I never noticed in 20 years of Westy >> ownership >> >> Yep, that's probably happening. Dont know why I never noticed it before. I >> bet if I pulled the car cover over it it might prevent the battery drain. >> >> Jim >> >>> On Sat, Jul 30, 2022 at 12:52 PM Mark Drillock <madvws@cox.net> wrote: >>> >>> Here is part of a Vanagon list post from Apr 1999 regarding the stock >>> fridge. >>> >>> >>> " Finally, keep the fridge side of the Westy shaded. I use a small >>> silver colored tarp to shade this side. The sun can heat the area >>> behind the fridge enough to cause the fan to cycle EVEN WHEN THE FRIDGE >> IS OFF. >>> I believe that this is part of why the fans all seem to be worn out. >>> Most of the Westy fridges have seen little use but the fans wear out >>> anyway because they operate even if the fridge is off. Darker colored >>> vanagons are more likely to have this occur. This is also why the >>> batteries in parked Westys can sometimes seem to run down unexpectedly. >>> When the sun shines on the left side of the Camper the fan will likely >>> be triggered. We all know how hot it can get inside a Westy on a sunny >>> day with the top down even when it is cool outside." >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 7/29/2022 6:18 PM, Jim Felder wrote: >>> >>> Interesting. Maybe that's what was running my battery down in the >>> first place. If that is the case, and I'm sure it is, it might be >>> advisable to install a switch to break that circuit when the cooling >>> fan was on but serving no purpose but to run the battery out. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 6:26 PM Dennis Haynes >>> <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> The fridge condenser fan is controlled by a thermo switch on the >>> condenser coil There is no other control for it. If the interior gets >>> hot enough that fan will turn on regardless of any of the fridge >> settings. >>> >>> Dennis >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> >>> <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> On Behalf Of Jim Felder >>> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2022 6:40 PM >>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>> Subject: An electrical thing I never noticed in 20 years of Westy >>> ownership >>> >>> When I park my Westy after camping, my habit has always been to switch >>> the gas knob to OFF and the mode switch to 120 when I parked the car. >>> I just went out to check on something in my Westy (1983 diesel) and >>> heard a whirring noise which I immediately knew could only be the >>> fridge fan. I checked and it was. Why was it on? Further checking I >>> realized that I had the car on a trickle charger plugged into the >>> cabin 120 outlet, and had house current going into electrical shore >> power outlet. >>> >>> Since my bout with chemo a few years back, I don't tolerate summer >>> heat so well and thus go through the hot months without driving the car >> very often. >>> This often caused the battery to be flat when I went to start it, >>> hence the smart trickle charger that successfully keeps the battery at >> the ready. >>> So, though I had not realized it, the house power has been running the >>> fridge for a couple of months now, and since it has been so hot the >>> gowesty fan upgrade has been running too for weeks on end. I didn't >>> realize that would happen when I hooked it up. So now, I have the mode >>> switch on GAS and the gas turned off at the knob and the tank. >>> Probably no problem for anyone but me, but just wanted everyone to >>> know that running a trickle charger with 110 plugged into the utility >>> outlet will run the fridge``and wear out your auxiliary fan if you don't >> do something about it. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> >>> >>
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