

| Subject: | Re: A mystery |
| From: | John Rodgers |
| Date: | Thu, 25 Aug 2022 13:01:51 -0500 |
Ok, thanks. On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 12:06 PM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote: > Easy enough to drop the pan and check if the ring gear has any side to > side or axial movement. If not the bearings are still good. Those bearings > turn slow with out much load. As long as there is oil and it is not > contaminated those bearings do last forever. Usually, it is the pinion > shaft bearings and seals that go bad, they are turning at engine RPM. My 91 > is now over 295K with original trans except for the torque converter and > parking pawl. At last gear oil service, I see the rear pinion bearing > moving in the case. I know the case is shot so running it until it dies. > I’m looking for a good used auto final drive! > > > > Dennis > > > > > > > > *From:* John Rodgers <jrodgers113@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, August 21, 2022 11:14 PM > *To:* Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> > *Cc:* vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > *Subject:* Re: A mystery > > > > Thanks for the info. I don't know much about these things. I feel I have a > steep learning curve . The man who did the engine conversion told me about > the loose bearings. I went to my transmission rebuilder who has years of > rebuilding experience including various VW vehicles and talked about the > bearings. I mentioned the problem. He immediately identified it as being > associated with those bearings. Don't know what else to say about it. The > van is high mileage, like 242,000, and the tranny has never been cracked > open except for standard servicing. No doubt those bearings are worn. > > > > On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 8:53 PM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > The output axle bearings are not the source of any play. When they go bad > it is obvious and will usually be accompanied by a destroyed ring and > pinion set. The axle flanges and stubs are one piece, that slide into the > center bore of the differential and engage in the splines of the > differential gears. Some rocking and lateral play is normal. If using > magnets and a sensor on the CV jpints you can add a 3rd magnet to > increase the speed feedback to the ECU. Someone can also tune it to allow > full revs regardless of vehicle speed. You may also want to consider a GPS > to check speedometer accuracy. Another option for the VSS is to use the > speedometer pick up for the cruise control. > > > > Dennis > > > > > > *From:* John Rodgers <jrodgers113@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, August 21, 2022 9:13 PM > *To:* Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> > *Cc:* vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > *Subject:* Re: A mystery > > > > Ok, thanks. BY CARRIER BEARINGS I mean the bearings for the stub/flange > that sticks out of the transaxle that the CV's mount to. I can get OBD 2 > readouts on my phone. Just haven't done that yet. Tonight perhaps. At 70 > mph the tach reads 4000 rpm. 70 MPH IS THE MAX I will ever drive it. 60 to > 65 in most places. I'm not in that big of a hurry to go anywhere at my age. > eVENTUALLY i will install a temp gauge for ATF temp monitoring. As always > if you own a Vanagon it's an ongoing project. > > > > On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 5:24 PM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > By what are you referring to as the "carrier Bearings". What are you using > for the vehicle speed sensor? If possible use the OBD 2 to see what the ECU > is seeing as the vehicle speed. Since you are running automatic with > original gearing you need to get the VSS to rear close to what the engine > would expect at over 4,000 rpm. For that engines original application 70 > mph would be well under 3,000 rpm. For best results you probably need a > 3.27 RP set and some serious ATF cooling and temperature monitoring. > > Dennis > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> On Behalf Of John > Rodgers > Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2022 4:33 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: A mystery > > I have a fairly new Subaru engine conversion in my van. The engine itself > is basically new by way of an overhaul. It has 800 miles on it now. The > carrier bearings are a bit worn and they wobble sufficiently at 70 mph as > to cause the VSS to get erroneous signals which in turn causes the engine > to jerk like misfire or improper or inadequate fuel mixture. The carrier > bearing problem will be fixed next week. IF I keep speed below 70 then no > problem. However in ranges between 55 and 65 the engine will sometimes > suddenly shut off as if Ihave turned off the ignition. If I keep my foot on > the gas pedal then the van continues to slow down. If Ilet of the pedal a > few seconds the engine picks up and continues on its merry way. > > Anyone have any idea what could cause this? > >
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