

| Subject: | Re: 1985 Vanagon 1.9l Digijet No Start |
| From: | Eric Caron |
| Date: | Tue, 8 Nov 2022 22:38:38 -0500 |
Great list from the list. And glad you sent this as some of the items didn’t show up as list posts. I’m saving it in my engine folder! eRic > On Nov 8, 2022, at 9:25 PM, Mark Pinnell <mark.stuart.pinnell@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > > Here is the list that I have compiled from forum members. They are not in > any particular order. > > It seems that my issue was a combination of a worn out rotor, and two spark > plug wires that had also seen better days. Have ordered new plugs, wires, > rotor, and distributor cap. Will arrive Thursday. Probably will pick up a > coil and fuel pump over the winter to supplement the parts that I travel > with. > > The List > > Pull a plug(s) and check for spark. > > Pull injectors and check for fuel. > > Swap in a new (or a spared fuel pressure regulator) > > Check the airflow meter. Make sure the electrical connection is secure. > > Make sure that the S-shaped boot from the box that connects the airflow > meter to the throttle body is secure on both ends. > > Look at the big connector that goes into the fuel injection module (it was > behind the left taillight on my '84). If the connector contacts are dirty, > you will get the same symptoms. > > Check the TPS (throttle position switch) - you must hear a click as soon as > you move the accelerator. > > Check all small vacuum hoses. > > Check the large rubber elbow from the AFM to the throttle body for any > crack. Cracks are more obvious to the engine when the ambient temperature > drops in the winter. You could seal the cracks with silicone sealant. > > Check the connector to the AFM - it may look clean but a squirt of > electronic cleaner won't do any harm. > > Check the timing, the distributor cap and rotor. > > For testing... spray some starter fluid at the intake after the air filter. > > Check the coil, rotor and distributor wire(s) for resistance, as per > Bentley 28.XX > > If you have (or borrow) a spare coil, put it in for testing. > > If you plan to put in new spark plugs, suggest NGK 1263 BP6ET, 3 prong > plugs, no gapping needed. > > Check the ignition switch by doing this: > Get a new (or a spare one), remove the connector plug under the switch on > the steering column. Plug the new switch to the connector.Put the key in > and turn it to full. Use a flat screwdriver in the top slot of the new > switch and turn it on. > > Check the parking switch at the bottom of the gear selector. You have to > remove the gear selector box and use a wire to bypass the switch > > Do these two one at a time so you can find out which one is bad. > > Fixed a friend's van one with the symptom "crank but no start" by replacing > the gear selector switch. > > Regards, > Mark > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2022, 10:15 PM Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Thank you, >> >> A good list. >> >> Keep us posted. >> >> Eric Caron >> >> >> >> On Nov 7, 2022, at 7:23 PM, Mark Pinnell <mark.stuart.pinnell@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Eric, >> Here's Dan's suggestions... >> >> Here are things to check (some of them are already suggested by others on >> this forum or you have already done)... >> - check the TPS (throttle position switch) - you must hear a click as soon >> as you move the accelerator. >> - check all small vacuum hoses. >> - check the large rubber elbow from the AFM to the throttle body for any >> crack. Cracks are more obvious to the engine when the ambient temperature >> drops in the winter. You could seal the cracks with silicone sealant. >> - check the connector to the AFM - it may look clean but a squirt of >> electronic cleaner won't do any harm. >> - check the timing, the distributor cap and rotor. >> - for testing... spray some starter fluid at the intake after the air >> filter. >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022, 5:50 PM Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> Hi Mark, >>> >>> If possible can you include Dan’s suggestions in your reply? I’m storing >>> away for future use! >>> >>> Eric >>> >>> >>>> On Nov 7, 2022, at 4:59 PM, Mark Pinnell <mark.stuart.pinnell@GMAIL.COM> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks, Dan. >>>> Just now going over the Bentley to put together my next round of >>> diagnostic >>>> checks. Coil, rotor and distributor wire(s) resistance, etc. >>>> Thought about the starting fluid to ascertain fuel issue, but wasn't >>> sure >>>> if that was recommended or not. I'll add it to the list. >>>> It may be Wednesday before it happens as I was reminded that we spend >>>> tomorrow with our two year old granddaughter, so Pearl will have to wait >>>> another day... No contest. >>>> Thanks again. All suggestions are greatly appreciated. >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022, 4:44 PM Dan N <dn92610@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> hi Mark, >>>>> >>>>> Here are things to check (some of them are already suggested by others >>> on >>>>> this forum or you have already done)... >>>>> - check the TPS (throttle position switch) - you must hear a click as >>> soon >>>>> as you move the accelerator. >>>>> - check all small vacuum hoses. >>>>> - check the large rubber elbow from the AFM to the throttle body for >>> any >>>>> crack. Cracks are more obvious to the engine when the ambient >>> temperature >>>>> drops in the winter. You could seal the cracks with silicone sealant. >>>>> - check the connector to the AFM - it may look clean but a squirt of >>>>> electronic cleaner won't do any harm. >>>>> - check the timing, the distributor cap and rotor. >>>>> - for testing... spray some starter fluid at the intake after the air >>>>> filter. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 1:00 PM Mark Pinnell < >>> mark.stuart.pinnell@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Dan, >>>>>> I don't have either of those options, but if it comes down to it, >>> then I >>>>>> can't see any harm in buying another coil to have in my traveling >>> arsenal >>>>>> of spare parts. We'll see what tomorrow brings... >>>>>> Mark >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022, 3:55 PM Dan N <dn92610@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have (or borrow) a spare coil, put it in for testing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 12:46 PM Mark Pinnell < >>>>>>> mark.stuart.pinnell@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi John, >>>>>>>> Connections look good and the boot is secure on both ends, but no >>> joy. >>>>>>>> It >>>>>>>> turns over very easily and it sure sounds like it wants to go... >>>>>>>> Seasonal temperatures tomorrow, so I will pull that large connector >>> and >>>>>>>> go >>>>>>>> through the tests in the Bentley as well as confirm spark and fuel >>> again >>>>>>>> (as it almost has to be one or the other). I do all of the grounds >>> every >>>>>>>> spring, but I'll do them again just in case. Can't hurt. >>>>>>>> Thanks again for your suggestions. They are appreciated. >>>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022, 2:22 PM John Lauterbach < >>> john@jhl.mgacoxmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello Mark, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I had an '84 1.9L with automatic transmission, and had the same >>>>>>>> problem a >>>>>>>>> few times. First thing I would check is the airflow meter. Make >>>>>>>> sure the >>>>>>>>> electrical connection is secure. Second thing is to make sure that >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> S-shaped boot from the box that connects the airflow meter to the >>>>>>>> throttle >>>>>>>>> body is secure on both ends. If those connections are good, take a >>>>>>>> look at >>>>>>>>> the big connector that goes into the fuel injection module (it was >>>>>>>> behind >>>>>>>>> the left taillight on my '84). If the connector contacts are >>> dirty, >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> will get the same symptoms. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> *From*: Mark Pinnell <mark.stuart.pinnell@GMAIL.COM >>>>>>>>> <Mark%20Pinnell%20%3cmark.stuart.pinnell@GMAIL.COM%3e>> >>>>>>>>> *Reply-To*: Mark Pinnell <mark.stuart.pinnell@GMAIL.COM >>>>>>>>> <Mark%20Pinnell%20%3cmark.stuart.pinnell@GMAIL.COM%3e>> >>>>>>>>> *To*: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>>>>>>>> *Subject*: 1985 Vanagon 1.9l Digijet No Start >>>>>>>>> *Date*: Mon, 7 Nov 2022 07:11:18 -0500 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>>> Looking for suggestions/next steps. Pearl has been running like a >>> top >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> 10K miles this summer, until last Tuesday... >>>>>>>>> Fired right up as usual, but when I put her in gear (automatic >>>>>>>>> transmission), she stalled and has not started since. Managed to >>>>>>>> flood her >>>>>>>>> and drain the battery in the process, but after letting her sit, >>> and >>>>>>>>> charging the battery, and trying to boost her over the last few >>> days, >>>>>>>> she >>>>>>>>> still has me stumped. Have pulled, cleaned and gapped the plugs and >>>>>>>> checked >>>>>>>>> for spark (looked surprisingly good). >>>>>>>>> Also put in a new fuel filter since I had one, and tested the >>>>>>>> injectors and >>>>>>>>> got the textbook cone spray. >>>>>>>>> As she was running fine up to that point with no signs of anything >>>>>>>> failing, >>>>>>>>> so I am not sure what to check next. >>>>>>>>> As I have a couple times in the past, I throw it out to the >>> collective >>>>>>>>> knowledge of the group to see what your thoughts are. >>>>>>>>> At home with no trips planned, so certainly not an emergency. I >>>>>>>> normally >>>>>>>>> put her in storage well before the first snowfall, and would like >>> to >>>>>>>> solve >>>>>>>>> this latest puzzle before doing that. >>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for your help, >>>>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (I sent this two days ago, then realized that it wasn't going >>> through >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> list members when I received no response. Thanks to Jim for getting >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> sorted out.) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> >>> >>
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