Back to a basic question,  Will the recommended front LED signal lights work without the GW relay?  Or in a stock vanagon?  Or both?

Eric 

> On Jan 21, 2023, at 3:33 PM, Raimund Feussner <ray@V6BUS.DE> wrote:
> 
> No, never seen this on a Vanagon or anywhere else. I want to be proven incorrect :-)
> The dual filaments are 5or10W and 21 Watts,
> If 5/10W blows, who cares. Sidemarkers, position lights...
> If 21Watt blows you will have a too fast blinker.
> 
> Dual filament bulbs have different purposes per filament.
> 
> Raimund
> 
> 
> Am 21.01.2023 um 21:13 schrieb Dan N:
>> I'd think a dual filaments bulb is for redundancy safety. If one filament
>> was broken, there's the other one - no running or no blinker, but at least
>> there's one functioning while waiting for the bulb to be changed. If one
>> ligament and it's gone, there'd be nothing.
>> 
>> On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 12:02 PM Raimund Feussner<ray@v6bus.de>  wrote:
>> 
>>> 1. In Europe we don´t have sidemarkers. In the front we have
>>> stand/position lights as 5W inside the headlight housing. White.
>>> The turn signals are "turn only".
>>> 2. All bulbs basically have their own circuitry, no bulb is shared
>>> between functions (except common ground)
>>> 3. The lights from .1) move into the turn signals in USA, to allow front
>>> sidemarker function, but still have the same stand-alone circuitry. The
>>> US blinker lenses are different, to allow this, the bulb socket (2 vs
>>> 3-pin) as well.
>>> 
>>> Opposite example:
>>> I, as a german, never understood the way of how the rear brake signal
>>> turned on and off during blinking. The principle of using one bulb for
>>> two circuits has to show its flaws sooner or later.
>>> Although Germans love the US style lighting...
>>> 
>>> Raimund
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 21.01.2023 um 20:15 schrieb OlRivrRat:
>>>> On 21 Jan , 2023, at 11:18 AM, Eric Caron<ericcaron96@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Also, Do they work in both the front and rear signal areas?
>>>>                  Eric
>>>> 
>>>>          These do not work in the Rear since all the bulbs in the Rear
>>> are Single Contact
>>>> & these are Dual Contact so they can be both Running & Blinker in 1 Bulb
>>> ~ Not sure
>>>> why the Germans thought they needed to Duals as they could have simply
>>> turned the
>>>> Running Lights Off & On to do the Blinkers ~