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Subject:Re: Radiator disappointment
From:Eric Caron
Date:Wed, 22 Feb 2023 22:39:44 -0500

Hi all,

        Another question, 

        Does anyone have experience with the Nissens radiator.  A friends long time VW bus mechanic says he currently uses either Nissens or good used originals as others fail after about 3 years. 

        Bus Depot sells the Nissens for about 220.  But it is also available from the place with the life time warrantee for 201, free shipping, and a life time warentee. 

So, Nissens or Mahlar/Behr?  Same price same warrantee 
Or Spectrum and no warrantee  for a even better price of 145 and free Amazon shipping.

Leaning toward Nissens, but what kind of tubes round or oval in the Nissens?
Leaning toward this one because once I purchase it, if it leaks they pay for the future replacements.

Wanting to pull the trigger on the order but hoping for a good result.

Eric Caron 

> On Feb 22, 2023, at 9:33 PM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
> 
>                Oooops,,, Didn’t intend to Send,,, Intended to save for My Info to Compare ~ 
> 
>        Tube Count > 46
> 
> Well, just to throw a variation into the history …
> Seems I have a hybrid of what Dennis described.  The Behr/Hella radiator I installed three years ago (but bought maybe ten years ago) was marked ‘Service’ but was made in South Africa, not China.  I have not been inside to know round or oval tubes – can this be determined from outside?
> See photos: https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ag0DyVeyF6ELf1INdL7ydq1i408?e=qjgCIG <https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ag0DyVeyF6ELf1INdL7ydq1i408?e=qjgCIG>
> 
> From: Dan N <mailto:dn92610@gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2023 5:23 PM
> To: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com <mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
> Subject: Re: Radiator disappointment
> 
> According to Dennis..
> *"Behr "Service" units were actually made in China and all the ones I have
> seen had a different core design, round tubes instead of the oval tubes.
> Similar to what was used in many early water cooled VWs.  This roundtube
> core radiator has noticeably less cooling capacity especially when using
> air conditioning. I have one in Fun Bus and it just doesn’t work well in
> hot weather with AC."*
> 
> and I totally agree with this..
> 
> I had my radiator replaced on my tintop Syncro - before the temp needle
> sits under the LED light, after replacing it with the round core it sits on
> top of the led LED light. No overheating but annoying.