

| Subject: | Re: Radiator disappointment |
| From: | kenneth wilford (Van-Again) |
| Date: | Wed, 22 Feb 2023 09:40:51 -0500 |
The Behr units are gone and aren't coming back. I have people call me or email all the time asking for them. Please stop asking, they are gone. However, there is an aftermarket option that we sell which is a copy of the Behr unit that is made in Taiwan. That is the one I sell and recommend at this point. I haven't had any issues or failures with them so far. I have been selling them for about three years now. Here is a link to it: https://www.vanagain.com/product/vanagon-radiator Let me know if you have any other questions. Ken On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 9:18 AM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote: > A failure of the tank to core seal is a very common problem with this > radiator design. Same for the heater cores. I often wonder how much money > and weight is really saved by this design and no way is it a unique failure > for the vanagon. What is rare is the passenger side tank assembly has both > the feed and return and a common failure is for a crack to develop inside > and also coolant to flow from one to the other and not actually travel > through the core. Some radiators also have transmission and engine oil > coolers as part of these tanks. These side tanks and seals can also be > damaged by excessive temperature and pressure or steam flashing. This > failure can be a symptom of something else being wrong. > > As for radiator brands for year the Behr unit that was probably supplied > for Vanagons still being built in South Africa was the unit of choice. The > Behr "Service" units were actually made in China and al the ones I have > seen had a different core design, round tubes instead of the oval tubes. > Similar to what was used in many early water cooled VWs. This round tube > core radiator has noticeably less cooling capacity especially when using > air conditioning. I have one in Fun Bus and it just doesn’t work well in > hot weather with AC. > > Lately I have been using units branded Spectra. This is what you have in > your 85. I have had a few fail on install, usually pin hole core leaks. > They perform as well as the OEM and are usually readily available. As for > longevity have not seen any failures except for those immediately on > install. As for warranty that will be up to the supplier. > > While we like to think that once a radiator is a long life item it often > is not. There are many variables that can cause failure. Radiators used to > be very expensive and there was an industry built up to repair them. This > is till common for trucks and industrial equipment. My motorhome needed a > radiator at around 60K and that was an $1,800 plus 25 hours install and 20 > gallons of coolant event. Our 2012 Jetta had a radiator replaced while the > car was still under warranty. My 91 now needs another heater core. These > things failing is just part of the vehicle ownership experience! > > Dennis > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> On Behalf Of Eric > Caron > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2023 10:28 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Radiator disappointment > > Well folks, I’d love your recommendations for a new radiator. > > My 84 seemed60 to have a leaky hose but it wasn’t. It is the radiator > itself leaking along the seam where plastic and metal come together. A > drip every 3 seconds or so under pressure. > > Radiator is just 3 years old with 16,000 miles on it. > > I’d love to hear your thoughts on where I might get one that has a better > chance of lasting. I don’t know the brand of this one. > > Tips greatly appreciated. > > Eric Caron > -- Thanks, Ken Wilford John 3:16 www.vanagain.com
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