There are 2 ways in dropbox

- the user *moves* the file (not copy) - so there's no duplicate file. If
someone goes to dropbox and makes a *"cleanup"*, the file will be *gone*.

- the user *copies* the file (not move) -  there will be a duplicate file.
If someone goes to dropbox and makes a *"cleanup"*, the user *still has*
the original file.

On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 1:14 PM Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:

> Exactly. One of the board members was using dropbox to gate-keep who had
> what, and have everything in a central repository. That meant he had a
> access to "rid" everyone's files except the ones he deemed the latest. He
> quit about the time I found out about it.
>
> Jim
>
> On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 1:57 PM Dan N <dn92610@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am not a computer expert but I know enough to find my way around the
>> hardware and software that I have. Sorry to hear about your experience with
>> dropbox...
>> I don't see how dropbox can delete your files. Dropbox is a kind of
>> cloud/virtual storage. The user copy/upload a file to dropbox and send a
>> notification/email inviting his/her client or friend telling that the file
>> is there so go get it. In the meantime the original file sits on the user's
>> computer - so where did the original file go after the upload?. In fact
>> there are 2 copies of the file - one in dropbox and one in the user's
>> computer.
>> Someone somehow must have access to the user's computer in order to
>> delete the files - dropbox or not.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 11:25 AM Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dropbox is horrible, I consider it a virus. I once worked for a
>>> non-profit of which a board member convinced the rest of the board to adopt
>>> dropbox. I worked for the board as the executive director. When dropbox
>>> gained access to my computer, it cleaned out every single folder that had a
>>> file in it that I developed for the non-profit. It also cleaned out
>>> hundreds of images that belonged to me that I had used in the
>>> various projects I did for this non-profit over a decade. Those folders are
>>> empty to this day and many of my photos are gone. I had no warning of this,
>>> I just discovered it one morning. Fortunately, I have multiple archives of
>>> everything I do but sometimes it might take me a couple of hours to find
>>> what once was at my fingertips. No thanks, dropbox.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 12:46 PM Dan N <dn92610@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There's a service called Dropbox that I use sometimes. The basic
>>>> service is
>>>> free.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 10:40 AM OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >         Being a photographer & videographer I have always missed the
>>>> fact
>>>> >
>>>> > We are unable to attach images to Our EMs but do understand the
>>>> reasons
>>>> >
>>>> > for that,,, But these days with all of the places that images can be
>>>> > uploaded
>>>> >
>>>> > to & shared via links on the www it seems almost silly that We
>>>> haven’t done
>>>> >
>>>> > something to make our Vanagon Related images available to Us all ~
>>>> >
>>>> >         I really do like the Ease Of Use of this EM List & would not
>>>> like
>>>> > to see it
>>>> >
>>>> > altered in any way & do believe that establishing a venue for images
>>>> that
>>>> > are
>>>> >
>>>> > pertinent to Our discussions would only add Frosting to this Yummy
>>>> Cake ~
>>>> >
>>>> >         Certainly there are other www based places where dialog &
>>>> images
>>>> > are
>>>> >
>>>> > easily shared simultaneously but they can & do become confusing
>>>> messes for
>>>> >
>>>> > some reason,,, I avoid TheSamba because to Me it is the proverbial
>>>> HayStack
>>>> >
>>>> > & as for FaceBook, there is a fine example of a HayStack in a Tornado
>>>> ~
>>>> >
>>>> >                                                 ORR ~ DeanB
>>>> >
>>>> >         & I really do like that YouGuys don’t give Me a hard time
>>>> about My
>>>> >
>>>> > Rebellious Punctuation ~
>>>> >
>>>> > > On 5 Mar , 2023, at 11:04 AM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Funny how this all comes around. Ten years ago, I was lobbying for
>>>> the
>>>> > > ability to post photos as that was an option at the time, during
>>>> one of
>>>> > our
>>>> > > major switchovers. I argued that it would make us more effective at
>>>> > > communication which part, where, how, etc. The purists would hear
>>>> none of
>>>> > > it. Where are they now? Did they die off? I think they all migrated
>>>> to
>>>> > > Facebook when they got the chance and this list suffered for it.
>>>> But here
>>>> > > we have a real discussion, not the morass-like structure of FB
>>>> which is
>>>> > > like a river--anything put into it floats downstream to never be
>>>> seen
>>>> > > again, the one-upsmanship, the smartassery of of internet
>>>> anonymity. Just
>>>> > > wish we could have both.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Jim
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 11:31 AM Richard Koerner <
>>>> rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net>
>>>> > > wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >> Yes Dean....you are on to something good.  Google Photos is an
>>>> excellent
>>>> > >> passageway.  OK....next step is to have all of this happen.
>>>> Seamlessly.
>>>> > >> Hardly a thought.  That is why Facebook is so successful and
>>>> popular.
>>>> > Not
>>>> > >> us Vanagon Folks....but in general, people are lazy.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>    On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 09:25:45 AM PST, OlRivrRat <
>>>> > >> olrivrrat@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> On 5 Mar , 2023, at 9:50 AM, Richard Koerner <
>>>> rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net>
>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Yes Dean, that thing works!  Could absolutely see all of the
>>>> detail.
>>>> > So
>>>> > >> marvelous.  Now...we have got to find a way to transmit this
>>>> knowledge
>>>> > to
>>>> > >> the rest of the gang.  So that this stuff can become a common
>>>> > occurrence.
>>>> > >> Doing so, will absolutely transform this List....in a good way.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>    Maybe if all of us have access to Google Photos, a GerryVanagon
>>>> > account
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> could be established & SignIn info made available to All
>>>> Interested ~
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>    Albums can be created within the Account, if need be, for
>>>> various
>>>> > >> subject
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> matters like Parts, Maint’, Accessories, Trips ~
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>    Flickr is also another option & I suspect there are many others
>>>> ~
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>