

| Subject: | Re: Shout out to Ken and Dennis The RARE vW bus vender |
| From: | Eric Caron |
| Date: | Fri, 17 Mar 2023 17:02:43 -0400 |
There is a FB electric vanagon group with over 2thousand members. At least that is what it looked like when I last looked. I only go on once a month or so, and only check that group a couple times a year. But sometimes I read a post and there are folks driving electric vanagons. Eric > On Mar 17, 2023, at 4:15 PM, Bruce Todd <beeceetee@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > > You are right Dan currently it is not very practical due to the points you > raise - hopefully over time this will change and will provide a solution to > the mounting challenges of owning a Vanagon. > > BT > > > > On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 12:48 PM Dan N <dn92610@gmail.com> wrote: > >> it's a good idea Bruce... but >> >> - will there be an EV engine + batteries weighing the same as a 2.1 WBX >> (or a Subie engine)? >> - will there be enough charger stations in remote locations where "We" >> (vanagoneers) like to go? >> - prices: GW 2.5 WBX is around $6K (plus labor) - a 2.2. or 2.5 subaru >> conversion is around $15K >> >> The idea of an EV engine is wonderful for the environment and other >> issues... but >> >> What will be the price and how long to wait for it...? >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 12:20 PM Bruce Todd <beeceetee@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> All the more reason to pray for a long range electric Vanagon motor to >>> keep >>> our beasts on the road longer without nearly as much pollution. Just >>> think >>> no cooling system whatsoever, no exhaust, no noisy or stuck valves or head >>> replacements, no discussions about synthetic vs regular oil - except for >>> maybe the transmission. I could remove the oil temp and pressure gauges >>> from my dash...but of course we can always chat about tires! >>> >>> Bruce >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 11:51 AM Dan N <dn92610@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> *"And from my perspective, would the person servicing it be capable?"* >>>> >>>> Well... they will say they are capable because they have the Bentley >>> book >>>> on the shelf... and the real capable mechanic is busy jumping from one >>> van >>>> to another to help solve the problems... >>>> >>>> I have a story... my daughter was travelling recently with her '90 >>> tintop >>>> from Oregon to Arizona. In Tucson a little rubber hose connected to the >>>> thermostat tower blew. She found a shop in Tucson and waited for 3 days >>> to >>>> have a spot for repairs. They replaced the hose and some other >>> unnecessary >>>> stuff. On her way back to Oregon, some hundred miles north of Tucson, >>> the >>>> coolant light blinked (not overheated). I told her to check the coolant >>>> level in the expansion reservoir, it's very low (they didn't bleed >>>> properly)... she filled it up. Some hundred miles later, the same thing >>>> happened. I told her to check the level every morning before hitting the >>>> road. She happened near the GW store so I told to get a new blue cap and >>>> have the cooling system bleed well. No one had a spot for her and GW >>> didn't >>>> do it. So I have to instruct her how to bleed over the phone and email. >>> She >>>> did it with the help of her boyfriend. They made it home safely. >>>> >>>> So... yes... There are still some good mechanics with experiences on >>>> vanagon out there... BUT... how many young ones want to learn to replace >>>> them after they are gone? >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 11:03 AM David McNeely <davmcneely40@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> In part, this is a matter of "aging out." If these folks are to stay >>> in >>>>> business, they must hire young folks into their shops. There just >>> aren't >>>>> enough old folks who know our vehicles still around. Just this past >>>> week, >>>>> I tried to set up a shop visit for my camper. Best shop locally by >>>>> reputation is one called European Auto Haus. Best tech there used to >>> be >>>>> "Obie," who was trained in Germany on VWs back in the day. He was >>> super. >>>>> But Obie of course could not work forever. He had to move on to >>>>> retirement, well deserved. Sadly, European Auto Haus responded by >>> saying >>>>> that there are six Vanagons in shop currently for work, but none of >>> them >>>>> will get serviced before summer, and that they could not promise a >>> date >>>> for >>>>> my van earlier than >>>>> August. And from my perspective, would the person servicing it be >>>>> capable? mcneely >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 10:52 AM Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The recent post about why do you purchase from Amazon reminded me of >>>> the >>>>>> good old days of purchasing from our venders like Vanagain. One of >>> the >>>>>> best things was that I could ask questions about the products >>>> especially >>>>>> about correct fit or how to install. >>>>>> >>>>>> I realize that now, Ken is the only vender that I can still >>> do >>>>>> that with. He is incredibly generous with his time. I really don’t >>>> know >>>>>> how he does it and runs a family business as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> In tech emergencies I have called Ken and he has answered the phone >>> and >>>>>> helped. Last time was when a friend was helping to install Ken’s >>> power >>>>>> steering rack. It was a simple thing but we would not have figured >>> it >>>> out >>>>>> without Ken answering the call. >>>>>> >>>>>> I try not to call unless I need to. Another time when a >>> friend >>>>>> was here we were stuck and called Dennis. And sure enough he >>> talked us >>>>>> through the problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> In the old days I used to talk to folks at Bus depot, but though I >>>> really >>>>>> appreciate the business, and I hope to drop in to visit one day, the >>>>> folks >>>>>> on the phone can’t help with issues, as they don’t know VW buses. >>> And, >>>>>> sadly the site is very hard for me to use. They do however, have a >>> lot >>>> of >>>>>> great bus items and nice to have them on my coast! >>>>>> Van Cafe, was great before it was sold. Peter and others there >>> talked >>>> me >>>>>> through many part installations.But, that ended. >>>>>> >>>>>> I even once got tech help from GW, but they don’t seem to do work >>> there >>>>>> any longer. Though to be fair, They were very helpful in emailing >>>>>> information back about specific products like how to update the >>> engine >>>>>> management system. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, I really appreciate that Ken sends out help videos, has useful >>>>>> articles and info on his site, and I don’t know how he does it, but >>>> even >>>>>> answered the phone and gave help directly. >>>>>> >>>>>> I do miss the days of calling the different venders to make orders, >>> and >>>>>> get personal direction on the products. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think they mean well, but other then Ken I don’t think vanagon or >>> VW >>>>> bus >>>>>> people answer the phone, or can directly assist. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hang in they're Ken. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Eric Caron >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>
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