Hoping that the next motor transplant in my 85 is electric! Technology is changing so quickly I’m sure in ten years it will be commonplace. 
Jeff

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> On Mar 21, 2023, at 6:58 PM, Bruce Todd <beeceetee@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I have to agree with David - the climate cards are on the table and we are
> seeing weather related extremes throughout the world and many of our
> communities have already been impacted.  Change is required for the
> survival of this planet as we know it.
> 
> On Monday the U.N. intergovernmental panel on climate change just released
> a pretty sobering report saying there is basically very little time
> remaining to keep temperatures from rising above 1.5 C degrees.  The good
> news is that there is time left still to slow the temperature rise however
> the bad news is the huge sacrifice, social change and cost to alter our
> dependency and need for coal, oil and gas.  I guess the really bad news
> will be the state of the world if we choose to do nothing or leave our
> actions for too long.
> 
> We are at a crisis and so government will have to lead the way for the
> short term by enacting very difficult and controversial policy.  Our
> economy will see a complete change and disruption as industry and society
> unwillingly shifts to using cleaner energy sources.
> 
> Personally I have begun investing in electric - we recently replaced our
> aging gas furnace with a heat pump system and received some fairly
> significant energy rebates to offset those expenses.  We also replaced our
> gas stove with electric knowing this was the way of the future.  The hot
> water tank is gas - but is 2 years old and will be swapped out once it’s
> ready for renewal.  We had been planning a renovation for a number of years
> and took advantage of these changes as part of the work.
> 
> Currently we own 3 gas powered vehicles - a Buick Enclave, Audi A-4 Avant
> and the Syncro Vanagon.  The Buick will be replaced with an Ioniq 5 this
> summer - it has been on order for almost 2 years.   A good portion of the
> cost of this vehicle will be offset by the rising price of fuel and the
> reduction in maintenance and servicing.  The Ioniq 5 will be our main
> vehicle for errands and for my wife to drive to work.  The Audi will remain
> as our long range gas vehicle but won’t be replaced when it eventually
> costs too much to fix.  It is an older model and I don’t put a lot of miles
> on it as I am close to work and tend to walk to work when the weather
> warms.  It will be a hard car to let go as it has lots of power and drives
> very nicely.  The Syncro is being completely rebuilt ( such a crazy plan!)
> well the body and suspension anyway - hoping the work to be completed this
> summer.  Not sure what will happen to it as my plan was to keep for another
> 20 or so years and I am banking on industry to supply an electric
> alternative to the waterboxer once it finally sputters its last gas
> emitting breath.
> 
> Anyway the story Dennis sent will be much more commonplace and possibly
> rather tame in relation to the protests both for and against carbon
> producing energy as the issue heats up!
> 
> Bruce
> 
>> On Tuesday, March 21, 2023, Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Dave, this is gonna be a robust discussion for sure!  Everybody....just
>> state your mind, don't be shy....this is how we gain perspective on the
>> whole matter.
>> 
>>    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 04:53:12 PM PDT, David McNeely <
>> davmcneely40@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I fully support the transition to electric vehicles.  I fully support any
>> legal actions that local, state, and federal government take to hasten the
>> transition.  Right now, my main personal transportation is a 2006 Toyota
>> Prius.  I will keep it so long as it continues to provide the service I
>> need, because the environmental (and monetary) cost of replacing it with
>> new, even electric, are greater than keeping it.  I continue to use my
>> camper for the reasons I have it, but if I could replace it with electric,
>> I would.  I look forward to the EV Buzz, and hope that by the time it comes
>> here, it will have improved range.  If I can get a camper conversion of it
>> or something like it, I will.
>> 
>> Right now, the camper needs a few thousand dollars of maintenance.  I am
>> mulling the trade-offs involved.  Some queries about that:
>> 1.  Stainless steel coolant pipe kit:  How important?  My camper has
>> (installed 2 years ago) the GoWesty stainless inserts in the plastic pipe
>> ends. No leaks there.
>> 2.  Metal coolant pressure tank:  How important?  Or just a new plastic
>> one?  The current one has not ruptured or anything drastic, just leaking at
>> the cap.
>> 3.  I put on all new fuel lines in 2008.  Is it time to do that again?
>> Ditto coolant hoses.
>> 
>> David McNeely
>> 4.  Antifreeze is bright blue and perfectly clear.  Do I need new when
>> redoing coolant system?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>