

| Subject: | Re: Drivability fix , I think |
| From: | Alistair Bell |
| Date: | Sat, 22 Apr 2023 13:47:54 -0700 |
Been just testing tgat ground Probing with meter and tugging wire. Seems solid. I think the seat belt bolt close by would be adequate. It’s a good body ground . But I’m dithering…. > On Apr 22, 2023, at 1:21 PM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net> wrote: > > IMHO it might very well be a good idea to run a ground wire all the way > > from the ECU to Eng Block & Eng Bay Grounds just to be absolutely sure that > > the ECU has a Great Circuit to essential data ~ > > ORR ~ DeanB > > >> On 22 Apr , 2023, at 1:46 PM, Dan N <dn92610@GMAIL.COM> wrote: >> >> Quite long ago, I came across a suggestion to add a ground wire from the >> ECU box to the body (under the bench, right side). I didn't have any >> problem but I did that anyway... so all my vans have that ground wire. >> You may want to try that. >> >>> On Sat, Apr 22, 2023 at 12:38 PM Alistair Bell <ragnarhairybreeks@icloud.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> It’s a bit of a long story so I’ll trim out a lot of what I did…. Take it >>> as read that I did redo grounds, terminals, check basics, did Bentley. >>> Yadda yadda, you know. >>> >>> And a perhaps related issue that I fixed a few years ago… that was an >>> annoying stumble and jerking, have to floor then pedal to get going… that >>> only occurred on summer trips on logging roads. Never in town, and didn’t >>> happen every trip. >>> >>> Did all the stuff you can imagine to track that down. Wasn’t successful. >>> But it went away after I did two things. Did the capacitor fix in AFM ( was >>> not classic vanagon syndrome but I thought why not) and I reflowed a solder >>> joint on one of the power transistors in the ecu. Did that after van died , >>> dead, one day. After a fair bit of work I found a bad joint in ecu. >>> >>> That was 4 years ago, the ecu fix. >>> >>> This last winter I started to have occasional bucking again. This time >>> around town. Not quite the same as before. But was getting worse. Only >>> happened after 15 min driving. Also the van felt sluggish all the time. >>> Sluggish pick up from stop. Felt lacking in power at low rpm. >>> >>> Got worse and a week or so ago got so bad I had to pull over. Van idled >>> high, about 1500 , tach bouncing at 3500! >>> >>> Something really wrong. Let the van sit for 20 minutes and I could make it >>> home. Only bucking at the end of that short drive . >>> >>> For some reason I suspected the ecu again. So I pulled and looked. I’m no >>> expert, but I found what looked like an iffy solder point on the board. >>> Reflowed that one, and some others that probably good but thought why not. >>> >>> Ecu back in and van started. Test drive for 30 min and all good. >>> Drivability great. Nice throttle tip in, smooth, no sluggish start, no >>> bucking. >>> >>> Happy guy. >>> >>> Next morning , start and back up in drive to turn, dies. Cranks but no >>> start. Jeeze….. >>> >>> Catches for a sec, dies. >>> >>> Crank crank >>> >>> Finally I reseat the ecu connection and it starts. Idles high agajn and >>> Tach bounces. I swap in spare coil, same . >>> >>> I fiddle with ground wire to ecu, the ecu harness, the connector. Starts, >>> runs great. >>> >>> All this last week it’s run sweetly. Really nice. I mean like a new van. >>> >>> So what’s the deal? I did look carefully at the ecu board where the main >>> connection comes in. I couldn’t see any issue. My ecu ground wire might be >>> the issue. On my van it disappears behind the rear bench side wall and I >>> can’t get at it without pulling the bench. This weekend I will look at the >>> harness side of the connection and see if I see anything. Also I’ll sister >>> a new ground. >>> >>> Obviously I’m not confident about my “ fix “ so far. But I tell ya, the >>> van is running better than I can remember it running. You know that jerking >>> sometimes at low speed , trailing throttle? Ad if you have the tps mis >>> adjusted? I was also getting that on occasion before the fix. Believe me , >>> I have done lots to try and have my tps working well. Rebuilt throttle >>> body, it’s in great shape, switch good etc. been a bug bear of mine that it >>> seemed to not be working at times. I now think it’s was always fine, it was >>> the ecu. >>> >>> I know there will be comments about this, did you check this or that etc. >>> but please believe me I’ve gone thru a lot of time and part swapping to no >>> avail. >>> >>> >>> Ab >>>
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