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> On May 22, 2023, at 1:41 PM, Steven Brower <brower@browerpropulsionlab.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks?
> 
> Steven Brower
> 
> 
> BPL R & D
> Brooklyn Navy Yard
> 63 Flushing Avenue
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> Brooklyn, NY 11205
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> brower@browerpropulsionlab.com
> browerproplab.com
> 
>> On May 22, 2023, at 4:36 PM, Ryan Alfonso <ryan.alfonso@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> CONFIRM vanagon
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>>> Date: May 22, 2023 at 12:04:39 PM PDT
>>> To: Ryan Alfonso <ryan.alfonso@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Probe failure for vanagon
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mon, 22 May 2023 15:04:44
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>>> LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM has just received  the enclosed delivery error
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>>> From:         "poppie.jagersand@yahoo.ca" <poppie.jagersand@YAHOO.CA>
>>> Subject:      NuFinish and other waxes/polishes
>>> To:           vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> 
>>> Re: NuFinish thread 2 weeks ago.
>>> I find NuFinish both goes on and buffs clean a bit easier than Turtle Wax. =
>>> NuFinish is a polymer, not a natural wax. It smells of VOC - Volatile Organ=
>>> ic Compounds, suggesting the polymer is dissolved in an oil distillate. It'=
>>> s harsher on the hands than Turtle Wax. I'll try to remember to use gloves =
>>> next time. Not sure if one lasts longer than the other.
>>> I used to buy Turtle Wax because that seems to be what others grab by defau=
>>> lt. After reading a Consumer reports comparison several years ago I tried "=
>>> Armor All Car Wax Gel" in a squeze bottle. It goes on directly to the washe=
>>> d and rinsed car when wet, so saves some waiting time. At least for me took=
>>> the same time to apply and buff, and I needed 1/2 bottle per vehicle, more=
>>> than the 1/8 stated.
>>> 
>>> McNeely's comment below suggests that wax isn't really needed for longevity=
>>> - maybe it's protective effect on modern car paints is negligible?
>>> 
>>> My '82 Westy was repainted in 1994 by PO. Nice job with a clear coat on top=
>>> . After 20 years outside clear coat has come off the top of the rear hatch =
>>> - that part faces directly into the sun the way Poppie is parked.
>>> 
>>> I find the wax helps most on the pop-top. Dirt rinses off, as opposed to di=
>>> scoloring the pop-top surface.=20
>>> 
>>> Martin and '82 Westy 1.9TD Poppie
>>> 
>>> Sun, 30 Apr David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM>
>>> 
>>> Power to you Richard.=C2=A0 I haven't waxed (or polished) a car in many a y=
>>> ear.
>>> I used to when I was young, but I learned that the finish is pretty much
>>> there to stay, unless the vehicle (or parts of it) have been repainted.=C2=
>>> =A0 It
>>> doesn't have to shine for me.=C2=A0 I am interested in a repaint job for my
>>> camper, though, with some minor ding repair included.=C2=A0 If anyone can
>>> recommend the place to do that near me, please do.=C2=A0 I am near Spokane,
>>> Washington.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 4:52=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C2=AFPM Richard Koerner <rjkinp=
>>>> b@sbcglobal.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> My uncle in Wisconsin is a multi-decade fanatic about having a shiny car.
>>>> He recommended Nu-Finish...the $8 stuff in a bright orange bottle.=C2=A0 =
>>> I
>>>> bought a bottle.=C2=A0 Tried it on my daily driver, 2004 Toyota Highlande=
>>> r.
>>>> (I'm still in the "Insurance Phase" of getting my wrecked 85 Vanagon
>>>> fixed.)=C2=A0 I was delightfully impressed.=C2=A0 Super easy to apply, su=
>>> per easy to
>>>> wipe off.=C2=A0 Very slick and shiny, and so easy.=C2=A0 I've been a long=
>>> -time fan of
>>>> Carnuba Wax, and use once or twice a year on both Highlander and Vanagon;
>>>> but that's always a project...with sore arms and shoulders.=C2=A0 This Nu=
>>> -Finish
>>>> product may just be the better alternative.=C2=A0 Scotty Kilmer and other=
>>> s have
>>>> also suggested it's use on glass; many other YouTubers agreed as a Rain-X
>>>> alternative; water just flows off.=C2=A0 Only thing to beware of is DO NO=
>>> T get
>>>> it on rubber or black plastic parts.=C2=A0 Anyway, it just might be the "=
>>> lazy
>>>> man's" way to have a shiny Vanagon, with great results that last a long
>>>> time.=C2=A0 Apparently it's been around forever....but only now am I disc=
>>> overing
>>>> it.
>>>