Oh,  I don't mean that I am beyond hope.  I go camping, I garden, I
travel.  I have a good and varied life.  But so far as the vehicles of the
future, I simply won't be there, and that is reality.

On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 11:31 AM Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

> Heck!  I've got some plywood, I can get fabric and foam. I've got screws.
> I've got Solidworks 3D Solid Model tool. And I have a sewing machine for
> curtains.  Yep, in 3 weekends...well maybe 4, I could totally transform
> anything into an object of strong desire.  I have done it twice (70 Bus and
> 85 Vanagon).  Yep Dave, me too:  I will soon turn 70.  I still feel like a
> kid though!
>
>     On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 11:19:59 AM PDT, David McNeely <
> davmcneely40@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  It will be too late for me, as I am 78 yo and counting.  There WILL be
> electric vans, pickups, and SUVs that have long range, high passenger and
> storing capacity, and can tow.  They are just not here YET.  Meanwhile, the
> VW ID.Buzz will be here some time next year, and could be converted for
> camping at a price.
>
> On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 6:49 AM Steve Williams <sbw@sbw.org> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the link to Cafe Electric.  It got me thinking.
> >
> > I sold my '84 Westy some time ago, because it was getting too hard to
> > find people to work on it when traveling around the U.S.  And it wasn't
> > very comfortable.  And the air conditioner was never gonna work right.
> >
> > Now I'm outfitting a small travel trailer.  My tow vehicle is a 2017
> > Outback 2.5i Limited, much more comfortable than my Westy, and easy to
> > get worked on.
> >
> > Towing the trailer, the Outback gets 18-19 mpg over the road, a little
> > lower than the Westy.  I'm hoping I can nurse that up a bit over long
> > distances.
> >
> > But it's still gas!
> >
> > I'd like to see a purpose-built EV tow vehicle.  I haven't explored Cafe
> > Electric's list of EV related links, but reading a bit about their motor
> > controller clarified my thinking about my tow vehicle a bit:
> >
> > Cafe Electric seems to be about performance and racing. That's fine, but
> > for the tow vehicle, I wouldn't want high performance, since I'd be
> > limited to 55 mph in many areas.  Instead, I need it to tow the trailer
> > up a hill and have good range.  Fast charging would be nice.
> >
> > So I'm picturing an old VW Rabbit, souped up with big brakes, tons of
> > batteries, and Recaro seats.  (Are there aftermarket electric cabin
> > heaters and air conditioners available, efficient enough for EVs?)
> >
> > I can dream.
> >
>
>