Even the rear passenger seat is contoured.  But I am puzzled as to how
bucket seats are safer than a bench.  One of the things I like about my
Prius is that the seats are higher than is typical in cars nowadays.
mcneely

On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 11:23 AM Todd Last <rubatoguy@comcast.net> wrote:

> You can really see the impact of the safety capsule design in the
> placement of the windows and high beltline. Particularly for cars with
> lower heights. Also, when was the last time you saw a bench seat in the
> front of a car?
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> Todd
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> On 6/4/2023 7:02 AM, Eric Caron wrote:
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> Hi all,
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>         I’m reserving impression until I get hands on experience.
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> As for size I had a related conversation with a VW dealer.  I said I didn’t love our new Toyota Rav 4 prime mainly because it was longer and wider than my Vanagon but didn’t have a lot of interior room.  I thought the design was silly.
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>         His answer was.  Cars are now a safety capsule.  That missing room is so that people inside are safe.
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>         This is a good observation.
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>         I love my Vanagon and its use of space.  And, it is not super unsafe, but not anything like the safety capsule of a new vehicle.
>  I suspect this impacts the space in the IDBuzz.
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> Still with clever engineering maybe we can get that little van into a comfortable small camper mode, fingers crossed.
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> Eric Caron
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> On Jun 4, 2023, at 3:47 AM, Raimund Feussner <ray@V6BUS.DE> <ray@V6BUS.DE> wrote:
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> The most boring and useless rebirth of an icon.
> The Buzz is a 5-seater "minivan" (4.6mtr) , in Europe like Sharan/Galaxy/Alhambra. US similar PontiacTransport and modern such?! I had a seat in it in Hannover last year.
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> Now they are bragging with the long wheelbase 7/8 seater (4.9mtr). Have you seen the shine-through image of it? If completely fitted with seats, the luggage compartment is less than T5s.https://derivates.kicker.de/image/upload/w_1795,h_1010,c_fill,g_auto:subject/w_1000,q_auto,h_563/v1/2023/06/02/47c5eada-5799-4b02-8780-96f5763d067f.jpeg
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> Our Vanagons are 4.6mtr and have a whole meter of that length as luggage compartment.
> I am not saying the Vanagon is the ultmaite design for all eternity! But boy, the outer vs inner size has been developing backwards since the 2000s.
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> Yes, VW has to ride the nostalgia wave. But in my opinion, they are dismantling their own heritage.
> The young rich kids won´t care anyway and think it´s cool.
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> Raimund
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