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Subject:Re: Cool idea for table
From:Karl Ploessl
Date:Fri, 16 Jun 2023 19:06:26 -0400

and don't forget the VW Vanagon Westfalia hatch storage bag which made a
stink a few weeks ago on FB as they were copied by VC w/o acknowledging the
original inventor/seller

karl.

On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 6:51 PM Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net> wrote:

> Design grabbers,
>
>         I sort of have mixed feelings about GW and VC copying someones
> invention and then selling it as theirs.
>         Some of my favorite van items have been taken over like that.  I
> prefer to buy when possible from the inventor or from the person that works
> with the inventor.
>
> Some examples,
> Karl Mullendore starter adaptor.  Now copied on one of the vendors
> Bombay pop top lifters now at the venders
> And the Bues shelf, not at venders because he just about sells it as a
> loss for those that love the shelf, it is at buswear.bis
> Oh, and the Timothy Risk washer bottle stainless repair cradle for the
> windshield.
>
> I appreciate our venders but I appreciate the community inventors even
> more.
>
>
>
> > On Jun 16, 2023, at 6:42 PM, Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
> wrote:
> >
> > I had another thought:  did you know GoWesty now has in-house Mechanical
> Design Engineers?  Those guys would pounce on this one like a mouse on
> cheese.  Super duper easy design; super cheap manufacture; super wonderful
> for many.  Yes, I believe those guys regularly monitor FB and the Samba to
> ascertain problems and solutions (although they keep quiet about it....hey,
> they are probably reading this email right now!)  I think VanCafe has
> contract engineers at their ready too.  So don't be surprised if you see a
> product like this within the next 12 months.
> >
> >    On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 03:11:17 PM PDT, Richard Koerner <
> rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> >  I am a retired Mechanical Engineer and have designed mucho stuff using
> sheet metal. Nope, ball bearings are not needed at all, just some stout
> sheet steel and some brackets on side to provide just enough clearance for
> it to slide back and forth, with some lubrication or maybe Delrin side
> brackets.  If I had a Westy (which I don't) I would copy his basic design
> concept.  But many others indicated immediate purchase if it were
> available!!
> > Ha-ha!....another win for FB....come on you holdouts!  All those nice
> pictures and videos.
> >
> >
> >   On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 03:00:53 PM PDT, Richard Koerner <
> rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> >   Guy made this comment about his invention:  "it was made from sliders
> salvaged from an electronics cabinet. With some serious design
> consideration and development a linear slide could be identified and made
> to work. I was able to retain the original rotation capacity while
> maintaining a low profile. It took some time."
> > He added this comment:  "it was surplus heavy rails from an electronics
> rack cabinet. Similar design to the seat rails. No ball bearings. Yes
> heavily modified."
> >
> >     On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 02:51:18 PM PDT, Richard Koerner <
> rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> >   The gentleman's name is Guy Kennedy, as I saw from his posting in FB
> Real Vanagon Owners.  It appears that virtually everything was kept stock;
> the key difference was that he mounted a slim ball bearing slide plate
> apparatus between the table and the leg.  And it works elegantly.
> >
> >     On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 02:44:36 PM PDT, David McNeely <
> davmcneely40@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Eric, you wrote, "He has his table high to access the lower cabinets
> > ......... ."  Can you elaborate on that?  Is the table leg simple longer
> > than the regular table leg?  Thanks in advance.  McNeely
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 8:51 AM Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> A friend recently invented a cool mod for his van.
> >>
> >> Anyone up for creating this for others?
> >>
> >> It is a mod for his table.  He has his table high to access the lower
> >> cabinets as I do.  He has the large table so closet door is blocked.
> >>
> >> He created a slide that goes between the table mount and table. When
> >> needing to access the closet the table will slide several inches over
> the
> >> stove top and allow the door to open.
> >>
> >> I think he posted some videos on FB Real Vanagon Owners and another
> site.
> >>
> >> I told him I want one but I don’t think he is up for another day of
> >> fabrication.  I also thought it would have been a great idea to include
> >> that with a small drawer between table and leg.  Then you have closet
> >> access and a small storage drawer.  Still just the slider seems like an
> >> idea that should have been around years ago.
> >>
> >> Eric Caron
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>