& Actually, Cars slowing aggressively without brake lights has been a

common thing ever since transmissions were down shiftable,,, I think that

has been quite awhile, like maybe since there have been cars ~ {:~)

     

> On 28 Jul , 2023, at 4:24 PM, Karl Ploessl <karl.ploessl@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> it appears that most cars will show the brake lights activated. But not all
> do and not under all circumstances. Apparently it is not illegal to have
> the brake lights not activated with decelerating braking, Otherwise the
> brands which I mentioned above would be in violation of the rules and
> regulations.
> 
> Best, Karl.
> 
> On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 6:19 PM David McNeely <davmcneely40@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Are you sure the brake light doesn't activate?  I noted people slowing
>> behind me before I touched the brake.  I'll check that out.  But a
>> following driver seeing a vehicle in front slow down should know it is
>> slowing down.  When I drive, I am well aware of that.  Who would not be?
>> 
>> On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 12:07 PM Karl Ploessl <karl.ploessl@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> this "active regenerative braking" is a curse for the people following.
>>> Without the use of the brake pedal, the brake lights are not activated, yet
>>> the electric car slows down. The following driver has no clue what is going
>>> on.
>>> 
>>> Karl.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 2:28 PM David McNeely <davmcneely40@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Well, there IS a shifter.  One can choose between D or B, D being regular
>>>> drive, and B being to activate regenerative braking.  The B REALLY makes
>>>> a
>>>> difference, such that in normal street driving, the brake pedal is almost
>>>> irrelevant.  And of course, there are neutral and reverse positions.  The
>>>> "no key" is just like my Prius -- an electronic, keyless entry and start
>>>> transmitter in a fob.  All those options are things I have only begun to
>>>> examine and try to understand.  Lane control, choosing among "Eco,"
>>>> "Comfort," "Sport,' or "Custom" driving modes.  In eco, acceleration is
>>>> somewhat curtailed.  In sport, it is "Whoa, baby!"  Comfort gives what to
>>>> me with having experience with the Prius is a "normal" feel.  Lots of
>>>> things, some I haven't even read about yet.  I really don't even know yet
>>>> how to call up all the menus.  Oh, interior "mood" lighting is kind of
>>>> crazy, one of those things that VW must have stuck in to appeal to the
>>>> youth.  One can have soft or harsh lights of one's choice of colors.  My
>>>> wife chose blue, and that is comfortable.  Some are almost like being at
>>>> a
>>>> rock concert.
>>>> 
>>>> No spare tire, but I intend to get one.  No jack, but instructions in the
>>>> owner's manual for how to use one.  What to me are crazy big wheels
>>>> (19").
>>>> I don't like having different tire sizes front & rear, can't be rotated.
>>>> 
>>>> Lots to get used to.  mcneely
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 11:00 AM kenneth wilford (Van-Again) <
>>>> kenwilfy@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I drove one a few months ago and put my experience on my YouTube
>>>> channel.
>>>>> It seems like a good car if you want to not feel as alien as a Tesla.
>>>> Like
>>>>> VW went out of their way to make it seem familiar to VW drivers, but
>>>> at the
>>>>> same time, it is strange not having a shifter of any kind, no key, very
>>>>> quiet, not crazy acceleration, and lots of options in menus on screens.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ken
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 12:50 PM David McNeely <davmcneely40@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I just bought (got it yesterday) a VW ID.4.  It wasn't my first choice
>>>>>> electric vehicle, that was the Hyundai Ionic5.  But that one does not
>>>>>> carry
>>>>>> the $7500 tax rebate, and the ID.4 does.  For those claiming that
>>>> electric
>>>>>> vehicles are not available, the dealer here in Spokane (Autonation)
>>>> had 17
>>>>>> on the lot this week.  I got my first choice of all trims and so on.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Wow!  This vehicle comes with a very high learning curve.  Luckily
>>>> for me,
>>>>>> it is driveable without turning on all the "assists," as getting
>>>>>> accustomed
>>>>>> to them will take a lot of getting used to.  But as I drove it home
>>>>>> yesterday, I sure enjoyed passing by the gas stations and noting what
>>>> I
>>>>>> won't have to do.  Not changing oil is another biggy.  Oh, and I paid
>>>> well
>>>>>> under MSRP.  The dealership had already put an "incentive" on the
>>>> price,
>>>>>> and readily accepted my substantially lesser offer.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I still want a Buzz, and will perhaps get one if I can see my way to
>>>>>> converting it to a camper, and the range increases to make that
>>>> practical.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> mcneely
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>