

| Subject: | Re: About Oetiker Clamps |
| From: | OlRivrRat |
| Date: | Wed, 30 Aug 2023 23:45:01 -0600 |
Which 1 is You ~ > On 30 Aug , 2023, at 12:38 PM, Dan N <dn92610@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > > Regarding MansiSpeed injectors, my comment is in here... > > https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=784070&highlight=mansispeed > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 9:40 PM OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Probably said before but will say again,,, Anyone deciding to >> install new injectors >> >> should give a serious look to MansiSpeed,,, Have installed several sets of >> these now & >> >> results have always created huge smiles, better idle, smoother >> acceleration, more power ~ >> >> Kinda pricey but the added engine efficiency, IMHO, may very well add to >> Engine Life ~ >> >> ORR ~ DeanB >> >> >>> On 28 Aug , 2023, at 6:08 PM, Eric Caron <ericcaron96@COMCAST.NET> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> This brought back bad memories of last summer when a GW fuel >> injector failed and sprayed gas in my engine compartment during a trip in >> Canada in Nova Scotia. >>> >>> It was a very young basically new injector. >>> >>> I’m pretty sure Jim’s are also new parts so this isn’t a fault of time >> and use breakdown. >>> >>> Luckily, like Jim, I caught it in time and replaced. >>> >>> I changed out all the injectors when I got home. >>> >>> Also. I was looking at my clamps and it seems like one van has those non >> adjustable squeeze style and the others are those that screw tighten. >>> >>> I’m just going to check now and then and keep my nose working. >>> >>> I’m actually a little concerned as my 84 smells a bit in the front so I >> will be doing tank reseal and possibly new tank this fall. >>> >>> And the 85 just smells different. Might be the slight oil seep but I >> worry about gas. >>> >>> So, I’m hoping to get my 85 van inspected by a local person that >> seems very detail oriented. Only it takes months to get an appointment. >>> >>> Keep a nose and eye on those gas sources! >>> >>> Eric Caron >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Aug 24, 2023, at 7:30 PM, Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net> >> wrote: >>>> >>>> Jim, if it were me, after this trip allow time to replace ALL of those >> rubber hoses with proper ones that can withstand alcohol like in modern >> E-10 gasoline. Very important is to really get into it. Like replacing >> the 2" lines from rail to injector. Our good buddy Ben in Canada (Ben's >> Place, not sure if still around) had a great synopsis of how to do it. He >> used an X-acto knife to cut off that old stuff....super simple. Of course, >> delete the plastic firewall connector (it was only done for manufacturing >> purposes) and replace with a nice rubber grommet and hose. Yes....you have >> GOT to do this stuff....only takes half a day. Well for me, a whole day. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 04:02:08 PM PDT, Richard Koerner < >> rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> Great Jim. I had an experience when backing out of garage onto >> driveway...saw a pathway of liquid...immediately moved forward back into >> garage while motor was cool. Smelled it. Gasoline...vaporized within >> seconds later. Close call for me. Fixed it. My first experience with >> faulty rubber fuel injection hoses. >>>> >>>> On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 03:47:57 PM PDT, Jim Crews < >> jcrews@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Richard, thanks for bringing it over here to the list. That was me >> posting. Here is the video of what happened as I was about to start on a >> few hour trip: https://photos.app.goo.gl/ctfpG88ZrY7AKWMj7 >>>> I quickly shut off the engine and went around tightening the clamps. >> After screwing then down, the leak was gone and I was on my way. Otherside >> also seemed loose so I tightened those down also. >>>> My main question is should I be using a different style clamp in those >> locations or just assume they will vibrate loose every so often. Either >> way, I’ll be staying on top of those clamps as part of regular and routine >> checks. >>>> Jim >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 6:05 PM Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net> >> wrote: >>>> >>>> Some guy was having Major fuel leak at fuel rail (on Facebook, Vanagon >> Owners Group); he had a mixture of Oetiker Clamps and smooth bodied screw >> clamps (had Video of fuel on rails coming out of somewhere), I thought you >> might have some thoughts as to my comment, I try to give good advice, lots >> of them are newcomers, but trying hard: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> OK....here's my "opinion". Oetiker Clamps were developed for fast, >> secure installation at the factory. Install, compress, done. But there is >> no allowance for the fact that over time rubber loses it's flex....in fact, >> it actually takes a set. So, for Fuel Injection hoses, it's my "opinion" >> those smooth sided screw clamps are a superior design (obviously not the >> slotted worm-drive clamps) in that they allow for snug up over the years. >> Regarding "springy" hose clamps on water hoses, these things ARE superior >> over slotted worm-drive clamps in that they are self-adjusting as rubber >> loses its flexibility. Still, with periodic attention, on water hoses with >> worm-drive clamps you can always snug up; the problem is, most folks don't >> and these are sometimes overlooked in hard to reach locations. Again, my >> "opinion". >>>> >>>> >>>> >>
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