

| Subject: | Re: About Oetiker Clamps |
| From: | Dan N |
| Date: | Thu, 31 Aug 2023 02:45:10 -0700 |
The one with 2 pictures of the injector tip. On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 10:45 PM OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net> wrote: > Which 1 is You ~ > > > On 30 Aug , 2023, at 12:38 PM, Dan N <dn92610@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > > > > Regarding MansiSpeed injectors, my comment is in here... > > > > > https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=784070&highlight=mansispeed > > > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 9:40 PM OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net> wrote: > > > >> Probably said before but will say again,,, Anyone deciding to > >> install new injectors > >> > >> should give a serious look to MansiSpeed,,, Have installed several sets > of > >> these now & > >> > >> results have always created huge smiles, better idle, smoother > >> acceleration, more power ~ > >> > >> Kinda pricey but the added engine efficiency, IMHO, may very well add to > >> Engine Life ~ > >> > >> ORR ~ > DeanB > >> > >> > >>> On 28 Aug , 2023, at 6:08 PM, Eric Caron <ericcaron96@COMCAST.NET> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi folks, > >>> > >>> This brought back bad memories of last summer when a GW fuel > >> injector failed and sprayed gas in my engine compartment during a trip > in > >> Canada in Nova Scotia. > >>> > >>> It was a very young basically new injector. > >>> > >>> I’m pretty sure Jim’s are also new parts so this isn’t a fault of time > >> and use breakdown. > >>> > >>> Luckily, like Jim, I caught it in time and replaced. > >>> > >>> I changed out all the injectors when I got home. > >>> > >>> Also. I was looking at my clamps and it seems like one van has those > non > >> adjustable squeeze style and the others are those that screw tighten. > >>> > >>> I’m just going to check now and then and keep my nose working. > >>> > >>> I’m actually a little concerned as my 84 smells a bit in the front so I > >> will be doing tank reseal and possibly new tank this fall. > >>> > >>> And the 85 just smells different. Might be the slight oil seep but I > >> worry about gas. > >>> > >>> So, I’m hoping to get my 85 van inspected by a local person that > >> seems very detail oriented. Only it takes months to get an appointment. > >>> > >>> Keep a nose and eye on those gas sources! > >>> > >>> Eric Caron > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> On Aug 24, 2023, at 7:30 PM, Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net> > >> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Jim, if it were me, after this trip allow time to replace ALL of those > >> rubber hoses with proper ones that can withstand alcohol like in modern > >> E-10 gasoline. Very important is to really get into it. Like replacing > >> the 2" lines from rail to injector. Our good buddy Ben in Canada (Ben's > >> Place, not sure if still around) had a great synopsis of how to do it. > He > >> used an X-acto knife to cut off that old stuff....super simple. Of > course, > >> delete the plastic firewall connector (it was only done for > manufacturing > >> purposes) and replace with a nice rubber grommet and hose. Yes....you > have > >> GOT to do this stuff....only takes half a day. Well for me, a whole > day. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 04:02:08 PM PDT, Richard Koerner < > >> rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Great Jim. I had an experience when backing out of garage onto > >> driveway...saw a pathway of liquid...immediately moved forward back into > >> garage while motor was cool. Smelled it. Gasoline...vaporized within > >> seconds later. Close call for me. Fixed it. My first experience with > >> faulty rubber fuel injection hoses. > >>>> > >>>> On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 03:47:57 PM PDT, Jim Crews < > >> jcrews@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Richard, thanks for bringing it over here to the list. That was me > >> posting. Here is the video of what happened as I was about to start on a > >> few hour trip: https://photos.app.goo.gl/ctfpG88ZrY7AKWMj7 > >>>> I quickly shut off the engine and went around tightening the clamps. > >> After screwing then down, the leak was gone and I was on my way. > Otherside > >> also seemed loose so I tightened those down also. > >>>> My main question is should I be using a different style clamp in those > >> locations or just assume they will vibrate loose every so often. Either > >> way, I’ll be staying on top of those clamps as part of regular and > routine > >> checks. > >>>> Jim > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 6:05 PM Richard Koerner < > rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net> > >> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Some guy was having Major fuel leak at fuel rail (on Facebook, Vanagon > >> Owners Group); he had a mixture of Oetiker Clamps and smooth bodied > screw > >> clamps (had Video of fuel on rails coming out of somewhere), I thought > you > >> might have some thoughts as to my comment, I try to give good advice, > lots > >> of them are newcomers, but trying hard: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> OK....here's my "opinion". Oetiker Clamps were developed for fast, > >> secure installation at the factory. Install, compress, done. But there > is > >> no allowance for the fact that over time rubber loses it's flex....in > fact, > >> it actually takes a set. So, for Fuel Injection hoses, it's my "opinion" > >> those smooth sided screw clamps are a superior design (obviously not the > >> slotted worm-drive clamps) in that they allow for snug up over the > years. > >> Regarding "springy" hose clamps on water hoses, these things ARE > superior > >> over slotted worm-drive clamps in that they are self-adjusting as rubber > >> loses its flexibility. Still, with periodic attention, on water hoses > with > >> worm-drive clamps you can always snug up; the problem is, most folks > don't > >> and these are sometimes overlooked in hard to reach locations. Again, my > >> "opinion". > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> > >
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