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Subject:Re: Vanagon LEDs Flasher resolved
From:Eric Caron
Date:Fri, 29 Dec 2023 14:29:47 -0500

Yes, If I left non LED bulbs in the front then the Relay you recommended works pretty well and the rear had LED turn lights.  But I could not put LED in the front. 

The Relay would make an unhappy constant noise. 

But, with the one I purchased and gave the number for all LEDs in front and rear turn signals work correctly. 

The one I ordered is the same number as the one I purchased from GW many years ago.

Eric Caron 

> On Dec 29, 2023, at 11:54 AM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>       The EP35 that I recommended is what GoWesty says will work for 80-97
> 
> (so maybe for some EuroVans also),,,
> 
>       I’m Very curious about what did or didn’t happen with EP35 in Your 85,,
> 
> The EP35 is what is working (for the most part) in My 90Westy but I do have
> 
> 1 issue that maybe the EP34 will resolve which is that the Front Turn/Running/
> 
> Parking lights need to be Non LED or I get some odd functioning of other LEDs,
> 
> The 34 & 35 have their B= & Ground flipped so that might well be the cause ~
> 
> 
> 
>> On 29 Dec , 2023, at 8:54 AM, Eric Caron <ericcaron96@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jeff,
>> 
>> I needed the aftermarket LED flasher to work with the LED flashers. 
>> 
>>       Until I got the correct flasher I updated all the outside bulbs other than the flashers. 
>> 
>> For some reason the one recommended by river Rat from NAP didn’t work.
>> 
>> Not sure if there is a difference for 85 and earlier vans but I doubt it. 
>> 
>> Happy new year.
>> 
>> Eric 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 29, 2023, at 10:50 AM, Jeff Palmer <w.jeff.palmer@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Eric and happy new year in advance! So did you end up using the stock relay or aftermarket then? 
>>> Thanks
>>> Jeff
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 29, 2023, at 7:04 AM, Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi List,
>>>> 
>>>>     Thanks to this list I found great LED bulbs for the van exterior. But the flashers didn’t work with the recommended relay.
>>>> I matched the numbers from the working LED flasher in my other van and ordered it from a place on line called SuperbrightLEDs.
>>>> CF13GL-02 LED Bulb Electronic Flasher - 3 Pin European Flasher - Black
>>>> SKU: CF13GL-02
>>>> 1 $11.99
>>>> It arrived and worked perfectly.  The price was good and I expect they might have good bulbs as well.
>>>> 
>>>> So, this is another list success in helping a member complete a Van improvement project.
>>>> I love the idea of brighter and safer bulbs, that likely last longer, and use less electrons.
>>>> 
>>>> Eric Caron    
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 18, 2023, at 2:51 PM, Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you for this.  And I easily located the flasher relay with these directions.  And double check by listening and feeling it during operation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, My LED update project hit a snag.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I replaced all the exterior bulbs except the flashers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I tried the flashers with the new relay and it didn’t work.  The first flasher didn’t seem to be working.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I exchanged the flasher relay and the second one operated but with all turn bulbs in place it just made a nasty noise.  With only two LET turn bulbs in.  Both in rear.  The 4 ways worked correctly and the turn signals worked fast.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I tried cleaning all connections.  I did this with a sighted friend.  We also replaced one small spade connector that was in bad shape.  And we cleaned up many connections.  Nothing changed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think this relay is good but who knows.  It works at least where as the first one did nothing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any tips on what to try to get the signals to work with LEB bulbs is appreciated.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> In the meantime my bulb connections got a good servicing and the bad connector is fixed so lots of good came out of the effort.  Not to mention all the other outside bulbs are nice and bright.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Eric Caron
>>>>> Working on the 84 Westfalia
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2023, at 8:24 PM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  On My 90 it is the farthest to the Passenger Side of Fuse/Relay block in
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> the 1st row above the Fuses ~
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Just did a bit of digging to remind Myself & on the 80 - 85s the relays are
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> on the back side of the Fuse Block & the Blinker Relay is the 1st 1 closest to the
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Drivers side end of the Block ~
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 14 Nov , 2023, at 3:19 PM, Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net <mailto:ericcaron96@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Why didn’t I think of that?  That should work fine.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Typically is it located behind the fuse box or where something needs to first be moved out of the way?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I’ll make time to check this out tomorrow.  Good fun.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2023, at 4:58 PM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net <mailto:OlRivrRat@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>        Eric
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Turn on Your blinkers & feel for the relay that is clicking,,,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As good as You probably are @ finding by feel, I’m guessing You
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> will find it much easier than most of the rest of us ~
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 14 Nov , 2023, at 11:28 AM, Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net <mailto:ericcaron96@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I got it with the help of a friend, located first try at local NAPA.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to give a try to describing the location of this relay so I can replace it and finish updating my LED exterior lights?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Friends commented that the ones I’ve changed so far are much brighter than the old ones.  And I’m very happy about the reduction in voltage and increase in visibility.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Eric Caron
>>>>>>>>> 84 Westfalia
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2023, at 12:30 AM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net <mailto:OlRivrRat@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The Flasher Relay that is needed to stop Hyper Flashing LEDs is this 1,
>>>>>>>>>> Novita Turn Signal / Hazard Warning Flasher EP35
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> which can be found @ most FLAPs,,,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> This is an AutoZone prod’ page link > ClickThis <https://www.autozone.com/electrical-and-lighting/turn-signal-hazard-warning-flasher/p/novita-turn-signal-hazard-warning-flasher-ep35/849390_0_0>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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