

| Subject: | Re: CV bolt rounded -- what to do? |
| From: | Rick Cooper |
| Date: | Mon, 1 Jan 2024 12:17:17 -0800 |
Success at last! Thanks everyone for the range of options -- I was amazed at all of the ideas, most of which I had never considered and/or thought impossible. I started with the simplest, Mark's suggestion of driving a 1/4" hex into the rounded off 6mm socket. All the while trying to keep in mind the caution that I should not hammer to hard -- I addressed that in part by using an 8oz hammer with lots of small taps. This almost worked but the metal gave at the last moment. So onto the next simplest -- Karl's suggestion of using a 8mm Triple Square bit (I think the one I used is triple square, it has about 12 splines? Torx has around 6 splines, if I'm correct.) That worked! Came out so smoothly I suspect the 1/4" drive attempt just before helped to break it. I had played around on the bench with using a 12-point 12mm socket. I think that too would have worked but I would have had to hammer quite a bit harder to get it on. Anyway, now onto replacing the joints. Which I am going to have to do judging from the pitting on the ball hubs and races. Our local dedicated VW parts shop has these https://vanagonwestfaliaparts.com/products/cv-joint-kit?variant=29737033793 at $95CAN, which is very roughly equivalent to $65US, and I can pick them up. I think they are Lobros but I will need to confirm that. Thanks again for the help. Rick On Mon, Jan 1, 2024, at 10:49 AM, OlRivrRat wrote: > I’m not familiar the hammering in of an allen or torx bit but the amount of > > hammering on that is needed to secure a socket on the outside of the bolt head > > is surprising slight & I am somewhat sure that longitudinal forces that happen > > upon the Axles are arrested by thrust bearing surfaces & probably not the roller > > bearing chases but even if I’m incorrect on that point, the Axles have some end > > play when properly installed so what ever it is that they hammer up against on > > the kinds of drives We like to subject them to can apparently take a beating ~ > > > > On 1 Jan , 2024, at 8:24 AM, Ray Brubaker <rayandmerle@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > > > > Be aware! Any hammering on this bolt goes through the ball bearing that is > > part of the wheel bearing system. Heavy hammering can cause the balls to > > dent the races causing shorter bearing life. These are robust bearings but > > no bearing should be hammered on if you want it to have a long life. > > > > Ray > > > > On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 9:15 PM Mark Drillock <madvws@cox.net> wrote: > > > >> The 6mm allen bit is slightly smaller than 1/4". > >> I buy a 1/4" allen bit, file a slight taper on the 6 edges of the tip. > >> Then hammer it into the rounded out 6mm hole, using heavy blows. > >> Then unscrew the bolt. > >> > >> VW used many 6mm allen bolts on many of their vehicles. > >> I have used this method lots of times, including CV bolts. > >> > >> Mark > >> > >> On 12/31/2023 5:08 PM, Rick Cooper wrote: > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> I've got a noisy CV joint and thought I would remove and repair it > >> today. But I managed to round off one of the twelve 6mm Allen socket-head > >> bolts so that I cannot break the last bolt free. Unfortunately it is on > >> the outside CV joint so it inaccessible by most tools. > >>> > >>> Has anyone had this experience and can offer any advice? Am I stuck > >> drilling out/off the head of the bolt? And then how do I remove the shaft > >> from the wheel assembly since it will be challenging, even with joint out > >> of the way, to get a good hold on it with vice-grips? > >>> > >>> Thanks for any help. > >>> > >>> Rc > >> >
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