'Vanagon Cafe' is just one more poor excuse for social interaction and actual
'help', IMO. Too many 'ACEs', a lot of know-it-alls and bad attitudes,
attacks, harassment, laughing at comments made by the oldsters who have
decades of experience. I left it - and almost every other Vanagon discussion /
help group a few weeks ago. I've grown too weary of trying to help people who
already think they know more or have bad attitudes. If it weren't for the
friends and family connection aspect of FB I'd leave the whole circus behind.
Karl