Karl, I was just stating the difference between you and me given the things
you stated about the van.  I am by nature a cautious individual.  I did not
say, "push it off on" someone else.  I said, "push it to someone else."
There is a difference in meaning.  Let's drop it, shall we?

On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 1:35 PM Karl <tdiguru@westyventures.com> wrote:

> You read too much into every word. Or you just have some looney axe to
> grind against me, for which I say 'bugger off' although I am thinking
> much harsher words. 😛
>
> Let me try again:
> THIS VAN IS NOT A RUST BUCKET. Yes, it does have minor rust in the
> rockers and a few seams. Most Vanagons east of the Rockies do. I've
> owned in excess of 40 Vanagons and have worked on them since 1982
> professionally so I think 'I know a thing or two'.
>
> NOW I plan to "push it off on someone"? HUH??? What the H E
> doubletoothpicks are you talking about? I HAVE ZERO PLANS TO SELL IT.
> I've had several sets of friends borrow it for events and one for a
> 2-month PNW explorative trip and ALL LOVED IT and said it was one of the
> best driving Westies they've driven. 😛
>
>
> On 11/17/2024 1:06 PM, David McNeely wrote:
> > I don't "know nothing about" your van "at all."Â  I know what you told
> > me.  Safety aside, for reason of the things you described, I would not
> > (and would not have from the beginning) kept (or acquired in the first
> > place) the vehicle.  That you did and plan to push it to someone else
> > is YOUR action.  Mine would be different.
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 12:35 PM Karl <tdiguru@westyventures.com> wrote:
> >
> >     HUH? What? Are you making a judgement of something you know nothing
> >     about? Wow.
> >
> >     EVERYTHING SAFETY + MECHANICALLY RELATED WAS REPAIRED, I AM NOT AN
> >     IDIOT!
> >     There are ZERO safety issues in this Westy! Leaks have been sealed as
> >     they pop up, the auto trans is the current culprit, a bit of
> >     'wack-a-mole'. It drives as nicely as any Westy you'll find. Front
> >     brakes are now Audi A6.
> >
> >     https://photos.app.goo.gl/JD6nnDNE1aT4KRuSA
> >
> >
> >     On 11/17/2024 12:12 PM, David McNeely wrote:
> >     > And tell us again why this vehicle is kept on the road at all?
> >     >
> >     > On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 11:55 AM Karl
> >     <tdiguru@westyventures.com> wrote:
> >     >
> >     >Â  Â  Â It's highly unlikely my Westy will ever find its way across
> the
> >     >Â  Â  Â country
> >     >Â  Â  Â again, given the current canine family size and the Westy
> >     leaking
> >     >Â  Â  Â almost
> >     >Â  Â  Â every fluid, haha! It's also in the queue for a conversion
> >     to mTDI,
> >     >Â  Â  Â Syncro manual transmission and Syncro tank in the near
> >     future, which
> >     >Â  Â  Â will take the mpg to 30-ish and 1000-mile range.
> >     >
> >     >Â  Â  Â It isn't a really nice van overall, as it came via the samba
> >     from
> >     >Â  Â  Â Minnesota where it was exposed to a lot of salt underneath.
> >     I had to
> >     >Â  Â  Â replace every part of the braking system and many other
> >     rusted parts
> >     >Â  Â  Â underneath. Some rust in the rockers, hidden by the
> >     fiberglass panels.
> >     >Â  Â  Â The transmission had a galley plug rusted out, which I
> >     discovered
> >     >Â  Â  Â when I
> >     >Â  Â  Â filled the transmission. That was fixed with a rubber plug
> >     and a metal
> >     >Â  Â  Â clamp bolted into a nearby bolt hole. The engine had a
> cobbled
> >     >Â  Â  Â together
> >     >Â  Â  Â mess of original pipes and undersized patches welded in. The
> >     first
> >     >Â  Â  Â drive, the oil buzzer came on when hot. At the time a friend
> >     who does
> >     >Â  Â  Â conversion had a Euro DJ 112i engine he had just pulled
> from a
> >     >Â  Â  Â customer
> >     >Â  Â  Â van, available for $600 with wiring harness and ECU so I
> >     jumped on it.
> >     >Â  Â  Â It will be for sale after the TDI conversion is finished.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >Â  Â  Â On 11/17/2024 7:17 AM, Eric Caron wrote:
> >     >Â  Â  Â > Hi Karl and others,
> >     >Â  Â  Â >
> >     >Â  Â  Â >ÂÂ  ÂÂ  ÂÂ  Â We could search for differences in the vans
> for
> >     days.Â
> >     >Â  Â  Â AndÂÂ  state this is not a scientifically valid study. But,
> >     to save
> >     >Â  Â  Â time.ÂÂ  I agree with that.
> >     >Â  Â  Â >
> >     >Â  Â  Â > Still, Karl’s van is about the closest I’ll find to
> compare.
> >     >Â  Â  Â >
> >     >Â  Â  Â > My less then scientific thinking is that if I’m getting
> 15 mpg
> >     >Â  Â  Â with smaller tires and Karl gets 16.5 or better with larger
> >     tires.
> >     >Â  Â  Â Then maybe.
> >     >Â  Â  Â >
> >     >Â  Â  Â > If Karl ran tires smaller his MPG might go down some.ÂÂ
> If
> >     that
> >     >Â  Â  Â is correct.ÂÂ  Maybe increasing my tire diameter to match
> Karl’s
> >     >Â  Â  Â might increase my Mpg some.
> >     >Â  Â  Â >
> >     >Â  Â  Â > I know we could talk about tire friction, type of roads
> near
> >     >Â  Â  Â Karl and me, and temperature differences, type of gas we
> put in
> >     >Â  Â  Â the tank, and how I weigh more then Karl.
> >     >Â  Â  Â >
> >     >Â  Â  Â > But, is it kind of possible that there really is
> something to
> >     >Â  Â  Â the wheel diameter and MPG?
> >     >Â  Â  Â >
> >     >Â  Â  Â > Remember all the 1970 adds telling us to be sure our tires
> >     were
> >     >Â  Â  Â inflated?ÂÂ  Were they tricking me?ÂÂ  OK they probably
> were.
> >     >Â  Â  Â >
> >     >Â  Â  Â > OK, the tire inflation might be about friction not
> diameter of
> >     >Â  Â  Â tire, they didn’t say.
> >     >Â  Â  Â >
> >     >Â  Â  Â > I think the solution is that Karl should drive over here
> to VT
> >     >Â  Â  Â and we do a drive side by side with the vans, then we switch
> >     >Â  Â  Â wheels and do it again.ÂÂ  Both at the same time of day,
> gas from
> >     >Â  Â  Â the same station, and the vans matched for weight.
> >     >Â  Â  Â >
> >     >Â  Â  Â > No bra on either van, same mirrors, same wax on the body.
> >     >Â  Â  Â >
> >     >Â  Â  Â > We can do this!
> >     >Â  Â  Â >
> >     >Â  Â  Â > Karl, we can do it before West River Westies July 2025.
> >     >Â  Â  Â >
> >     >Â  Â  Â > And your van sounds nice.ÂÂ  How did you ever end up with
> that
> >     >Â  Â  Â engine? I only recently learned about those European
> versions of
> >     >Â  Â  Â our water boxers.
> >     >Â  Â  Â >
> >     >Â  Â  Â > Eric
> >     >Â  Â  Â >
> >     >Â  Â  Â >
> >     >Â  Â  Â >> On Nov 17, 2024, at 2:26 AM, Karl Mullendore
> >     >Â  Â  Â <tdiguru@WESTYVENTURES.COM> wrote:
> >     >Â  Â  Â >>
> >     >Â  Â  Â >> Other factors are mine is a Multivan poptop, at 4300
> >     feet, and
> >     >Â  Â  Â a good running
> >     >Â  Â  Â >> 112i with factory Digijet, totally stock except for the
> >     4-hole
> >     >Â  Â  Â injectors. You
> >     >Â  Â  Â >> have a slightly larger engine at sea level running GW's
> >     >Â  Â  Â whatever they threw
> >     >Â  Â  Â >> together which may or may not achieve as good mileage
> ever.
> >     >Â  Â  Â >> Karl
> >     >
> >
>