

| Subject: | Re: AI Engine Status For Vanagon Owners |
| From: | Mark McCulley |
| Date: | Tue, 4 Feb 2025 09:28:14 -0800 |
Yes they are, located here: http://gerry.vanagon.com/archives/ -Mark > On Feb 4, 2025, at 7:44 AM, Al Carey <careyald@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > > Are the archives of this list available to the public? Sounds like a great resource for a Vanagon newbie such as myself. > > Thanks, > Al > >> On Feb 4, 2025, at 10:27 AM, Mark McCulley <mark@markmcculley.com> wrote: >> >> Thanks for the suggestions Derek. I've dabbled with AI, mostly ChatGPT and Gemini. I was underwhelmed with the information I got from Gemini, it would give me answers that I knew to be incorrect and then when I corrected it, it said something to the effect, "sorry, you are correct..." After a few instances of this I lost trust and quit using Gemini. That was about a year or so ago though and I suspect things have improved since then. >> >> -Mark >> >> >>> On Feb 3, 2025, at 6:35 PM, Derek Drew <derekdrew@DEREKMAIL.COM> wrote: >>> >>> The potential of AI is determined by your imagination. If you have no >>> imagination and are not curious, you won't use it. >>> >>> If I were tuning an AI engine someday, I would tell it to pay special >>> attention to everything Dennis Haynes says and some other people. Or, if >>> you have access to the archives of this list, you can actually read >>> everything he ever wrote. I have every email on this list from 1994 and >>> will feed it to AI one of these days somehow. >>> >>> Make sure all of the following are quick links in your browser bookmarks >>> bar. And yes, you need them all because often, only one or two of them will >>> be best at what you want them to do. If you only use one, you will >>> constantly be crashing your car into a tree. >>> >>> A+ https://www.perplexity.ai* Real Time Search plus AI* >>> A https://claude.ai Anthropic backed by Google and Amazon >>> A https://chatgpt.com OpenAI >>> A- https://gemini.google.com Google, a little behind >>> B+ https://copilot.microsoft.com Microsoft, a little behind >>> B https://grok.com Elon Musk >>> B- https://www.meta.ai Zuckerberg >>> B - https://chat.mistral.ai French Dudes >>> C+ https://chat.deepseek.com** China came from behind >>> *Consider the paid version of Perplexity and consider attaching >>> OpenAI/ChatGPT to this as I do to get the A+ >>> **It may be some days until Deepseek is available again. ACTUALLY, the best >>> way to use Deepseek is to use it via Perplexity because then your queries >>> don't go through China and get recorded by China. With that concern erased, >>> (Deepseek + Perplexity COMBO) might be in the very top tier of these links. >>> >>> There is also a Vanagon focused AI but I have not tested it yet, here: >>> https://chatgpt.com/g/g-NL7QcdICZ-vanagon-maintenance-guide >>> >>> Forward this list to whoever you think. >>> >>> Over time, you should be paying for some of these and some of them you can >>> keep using as the free versions. >>> >>> Don't want to pay????? >>> >>> There was a time when you did not want to pay to have a cell phone. But >>> none of us would turn our cell phones in these days in order to save the >>> fee. >>> >>> Think about it.
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