

| Subject: | [W] Antifreeze in Volkswagens... (fwd) |
| Date: | Thu, 14 Apr 1994 19:45:19 -0600 (CDT) |
An interesting post from the VW newsgroup: Forwarded message: ]From: finnegan@nrlssc.navy.mil (K. M. Finnegan) ]Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw ]Subject: [W] Antifreeze in Volkswagens... ]Date: 14 Apr 1994 12:49:00 GMT ]Organization: Naval Research Laboratories ] ]I just had a lengthy conversation with a gentleman at Zerex concerning ]the use of their antifreeze in VW's, MBenz, BMW's, etc. As you all ]probably know, most European manufacturers recommend the use of a ]phosphate-free antifreeze in their cars. In VW's case, at least, that ]means buying Autobahn coolant from your local dealer. After my ]water pump replacement this weekend, I put in a gallon of Zerex, ]which states on the front of the bottle that it is "suitable for ]all modern automotive cooling systems." Dan Simoes and I were talking ]this morning about this issue, so I decided to go to a source. ]Here's what he said in a nutshell (keep in mind that this person ]works for Zerex.) ] ](1) Initially, the European manufacturer's claims were based on their ] extensive use of aluminum in their motors (mid 70's). The claim ] at that time was that the phosphates in traditional coolants could ] possibly damage the aluminum. John pointed out that almost ALL ] cars these days use aluminum components, and no domestic or ] Japanese manufacturers seem concerned with the problem. ] ](2) Apparently, the concern now stems from the relative "hardness" of ] the water in some locations. When phosphates are mixed with "hard" ] water, the water is softened (which, incidentally, is the type of ] water you want in your system), but precipitates form as a result ] of the removal of the "contaminants" from suspension. These ] precipitates are what seem to concern the manufacturers. John ] countered with the point that the amount of precipitate is ] miniscule compared to the amount of other contaminants that ] make their way into the cooling system, so it should introduce ] no problems whatsoever. ] ]He finished by saying this: If your car is still under warranty, by ]all means use the dealer recommended coolant so as not to void your ]warranty. He said that Autobahn coolant is dark blue, and the ]mechanic could tell immediately (if the coolant were the traditional ]bright yellow/green) that you had not used Autobahn. ] ]If your car is out of warranty anyway, IN HIS OPINION AND ]THE OPINION OF ZEREX you will not harm your cooling system in any way ]by using their product OR the coolant of any other reputable ]manufacturer, phosphate-free or not.... ] ]Kenneth.Finnegan@nrlssc.navy.mil -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jerry Dunham, MSE (512)244-8598 Tandem Computers, Inc. dunham@mpd.tandem.com Integrity Systems Division dunham_jerry@tandem.com Computium Ergo Sum Foodium (I am programming therefore I am hungry)
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