> First off, I would like to thank Gerry Skerbitz, Steve Johnson and
> our "trivial expert" Joel Walker for a most stimulating and interesting
> discussion ( or was it an arguement...remember that old Monty Python
> sketch anyone?) on Vanagons, EVs and Chrysler shitboxes (can we all
> agree on the Chrysler shitbox designation?....after all they don't
> even have a ladder frame like a VW) this weekend.
> 
> I would like to close with one FINAL observation. Grateful Dead stickers
> do not look out of place on a EuroVan, Vanagon or early VW vans. They do,
> however, look WAY out of place on a Caravan!
> 
> ;-)
> 
> Ric
> 

Yeah my fingers are tired too. ;)  I agree that ANY minivan that does not have
the VW badge can have the distinction of "Shit-Box".  I won't downgrade a full-
size van though.  They've been through some tough stuff and done pretty well.

Cheers!
-- 
Steven

sjohnson@pcocd2.intel.com