David Schwarze writes:
> 
> DerekDrew@aol.com writes:
> > 
> > I have begun receiving messages which indicate the original sender as sender
> > rather than the vanagon list as sender. I don't know if this is something
> > Gerry is doing or if my AOL software has begun doing this. 
> 
> I haven't seen anything like that with ELM (Unix mailer)

Nor have I with ELM (except for messages that I send which come back
multiple recipients.
 > 
> > Either way, it isn't such a good idea. When I hit my reply button the message
> > might go back to that individual rather than to the whole list. 
> 
> I prefer it that way.  You can still send a group reply if you want, which
> would go back to the list.  Having ALL replies sent to the list makes it
> very hard to send private mail as a response.
> 
> > About 1/2 of the messages on this list have no business being here as it is
> > merely mindless chatter from lonely people. 
> 
> Why thank you.  What a genuinely nice thing to say!
Derek; why don't you define mindless chatter? Some might consider your
above points mindless and something that should be directed towards
Gerry rather than the group. Stupid is as stupid does... >  > > 	
			
   
  I feel that Joel can post any
> > message he likes because he regularly contributes very valuable technical
> > information. 
> 
> Not to me, I don't have a Vanagon.  In principle, I agree with you, though.
> 
> > 		 Some of the other people are just blowing hot air into this
> > thing and it has the potential to drive people with real jobs and real lives
> > off the list. 

Derek please define hot air. What makes your points more valuable and
worth listening to?
> 
> Now come on Derek, ALL of us have "real jobs and real lives".  Yes, that
> includes Ric.  :)
> 
> > The saving grace is when people properly identify their subject matter. Those
> > of us who don't want to read poems about our campers have learned what Friday
> > Haiku means. 
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> > Messages still go through here like "Glad to hear that,"  "I agree," or
> > "Thanks for all your help." I feel that if you have this little to say that
> > you should send a private message. 

If I want to thank several people for advice I will do so en masse rather
than Individually. Sorry if you think thanking people is trivial....

> I bet a few of them were intended to be.  It's entirely too easy to hit "r"
> to reply and forget that it is sent to the list.  I've even done it a couple
> of times, and I do this stuff for a living.
> 
> > Please don't generate traffic just to generate traffic. There are plenty of
> > places for that sort of thing in cyberspace.

How can you know this is what people are doing? The reason this list is
more interesting is that it crosses a greate divide of technical and
personal interests. If its technical information only you seek try
vintagvw. Can you say dull and repetitive?
 > 
> If I might add a little pet peeve of my own, Please also don't quote 80 lines
> of text and add 3 new ones at the bottom in your reply!!!!  Even with a 56
> row window this gets annoying...

I did this once recently, precisely to point out how easily loads of
"infomation" can de shot down with one or two simple sentences.

>  > -David
> 
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