>>In transiting Oregon on a federally funded highway, Ididn't glue a chip to 
my
>>shoulder on crossing the state-line and was unprepared for the denigrating
>>comments about Californians overheard at rest stops.  I suppose there are
>>red-neck oafs at many gas stations in every state but Oafis oregoni made 
that
>>extra effort that justified special treatment and mention.  Perhaps the
>>impoliteness and ill-mannered behavior has something to do with the trees.
>> Most of my prior visits to Oregon were in the more arid two-thirds of the
>>state east of the Cascades.  If given a choice, I'll avoid your state in 
the
>>future.
>
>Oregon is also the state that gave us the Oregon Citizen's Alliance, that
>neo-nazi group that is (like a virus) attempting to infect neighboring
>states.  But at least it gives Lon Mabon's family a job and keeps the whole
>gang off welfare.
>
>Ron, who likes the *state*, but not the rednecks who live there.

I drove to portland and back (from San Diego) a few months ago.
Was surprised by the can't-pump-your-own-gas thing (??? ...we can
in EPA-blighted California), but ran into no obnoxious or rude persons
with or without third brake lights below their hairlines. The people I
encountered, seemed pretty nice. Maybe you got unlucky, Bob?

My $0.02.

 -Steve Maher   smaher@gi.com   '71 Transporter

P.S. I have heard of bumper stickers saying "Don't Californicate our State".
But didn't see any when I went there. I didn't litter, BTW.