On Wed, 11 Oct 95 20:20:50 CDT <mbushore@icaen.uiowa.edu> said:
>	Someone mentioned something about Bosch books
>(stop me if I'm being too specific)
>	Anyway, SAE is always advertising a Bosch Automotive
>handbook, and a Bosch Fuel Injection book.
>	Has anyone seen either of these? I've been tempted to
>buy them, but would like to hear from someone that has them,or
>has seen them as to their general usefullness.
>(it also just occurs to me that I should check the libraries around
>here, eh?)

i have both, and the Bosch Automotive Handbook is a really neat little blue
book ... but it is EXTREMELY technical, full of data and formulae for the
engineer. but where else will you find the power consumed by the brake lights
of "average" cars? or the "meaning" of the numbers on the DIN/German
electrical parts (did you know that 85 is always "ground"??)?

is it worth the money? well ... it's like some tools that you use only once
a year: if nothing else works, it's priceless. :) but the Bosch Handbook is
NOT something you will use each day, or week, or even month. maybe once a
year. it does, however, have more data and information about automobiles
than you will ever be able to understand or use.

here's some other info about these books:
SRP = suggested retail price,  all prices as of June 1994

Book Sellers:
RBP  Robert Bentley, Publishers   (800) 423-4595
     1000 Massachusetts Ave.      (617) 876-9234 FAX 24 hrs/day
     Cambridge, MA 02138          Visa/MC/AMEX/check/money order (no COD)
                                  ask for catalog

CMB  Classic Motorbooks           (800) 826-6600
     729 Prospect Ave.            (715) 294-4448 FAX 24 hrs/day
     P. O. Box 1                  (715) 294-3345 Overseas
     Osceola, WI 54020            Visa/MC/AMEX/Discover (no COD)

BOS  Robert Bosch Corporation     (800) 937-2672
     UA/AMA Library               Mon.-Fri 0900-1600 Central
     2800 South 25th Avenue       Visa/MC
     Broadview, IL 60153          technical books, videos, wall charts
                                  some stuff cheap, other stuff very
                                  expensive.  ask for catalog

BUS  Bus Stop                     (800) 544-5357
     Rocky Mountain Motorworks    0800-1800 Mon-Fri
     Woodland Park, CO 80863      Visa/MC/Discover/COD
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Bosch Automotive Handbook                         Handy little handbook
ISBN 0-8376-0330-7, 852 pages, $31.95 SRP         with all sorts of auto
(latest edition: 3rd edition, September 15, 1993) data and math and
avail: RBP $31.95,   order # H001                 reference data.
       CMB $32.00,   order # 107-984-AE
       BOS $22.95,   order # 1-987-723-101

Bosch Automotive Electric/Electronic Systems      technical reference
ISBN 0-8376-0467-2, 347 pages, $31.95 SRP         stuff for auto
(latest edition: 1st edition, May 1988)           electrics ONLY (no
avail: RBP $31.95,   order # H002                 mechanical stuff; more
       CMB $42.95,   order # 113-754-E            detail on electrics than
       BOS $29.95,   order # 1-987-723-601        the Handbook)

Bosch Technical Instruction Booklets
* L-Jetronic Fuel-Injection System
  ISBN 0-8376-0469-9
  RBP order # H160,  BOS order # 1-987-722-160
* Motronic Combined Ignition and Fuel-Injection System
  ISBN 0-8376-0471-0
  RBP order # H161,  BOS order # 1-987-722-161
* Braking Systems for Passenger Cars
  ISBN 0-8376-0472-9
  RBP order # H103,  BOS order # 1-987-722-103
* Automotive Electronics for Safety, Comfort and Reliability
  ISBN 0-8376-0473-7
  RBP order # H150,  BOS order # 1-987-722-150
* Battery Ignition
  ISBN 0-8376-0477-X
  RBP order # H154,  BOS order # UBE 120/3 En
* Spark Plugs
  ISBN 0-8376-0478-8
  RBP order # H155,  BOS order # 1-987-722-155
* Alternators
  ISBN 0-8376-0479-6
  RBP order # H156,  BOS order # U 1/8 En
* Starting Systems
  ISBN 0-8376-0480-X
  RBP order # H170,  BOS order # UBE 501/1 B
* many other titles.
avail:  RBP:  $11.95 SRP each. Buy 5, get 1 free (6 for $59.75)
        BOS:  $7.50 SRP each.
        BUS:  $9.95 SRP each.

these last books (or more correctly, booklets) are about 50 or so pages,
glossy, magazine-like, and are more of an general technical introduction to
the subject. NOT much detailed technical info.

joel