So Joel sez:

>now, down in South Africa (so how come places "below" the equator are always
>"down"??? what if the world is upside-down to begin with??), they sell the

Yes. I object. Why do everybody always look _down_ on South Africa? We want
people to look _up_ at us for a change. We're people too. We've also got
hearts, we've also got emotions. :-)))))))))))

>buses as 10-seaters!! cause they put some "seats" over the engine. these
>little "jump seats" face backwards, and the occupants can't get out by them-
>selves (someone has to open the rear hatch from the outside) ... unless they
>scamper over the 3rd seat. :)

Lessee, (BTW I _hate_ doing ascii art :-)

/-------------------------------------------\
|       ]        ]         ]         ]      |
| driver]      1 ]       4 ]      6  ]      |
|       ]        ]         ]         ]      |
|       ]        ]         ]         ]      |
|              2 ]       5 ]      7  ] eng- |
|       ]        ]         ]         ] ine  |
|       ]        ]         ]         ]      |
| pass  ]      3 ]                8  ]      |
|       ]        ]                   ]      |
\--------- sliding    ----------------------/
            door
                                     |
                                     |  hatch
                   Side view      ---|------
                                 /
                                /  wheel  engine
                               /   arch

That's a 10 seater, if I recall right.
The seat for #3 is a fold up arrangement. #6,7,8 sit on top of the engine
with their legs following the engine compartment contour, if you can
understand what I'm trying to say. Being tall, I prefer seat #8 :-)

And there's some funny arrangement (I havn't been in one of these for a
while) where the rear seats fold forward to make a full bed, but _then_
you have to get in at the back.

If anyone would like more info, or disagrees, I'll run outside & go find one,
look through the window, will report back if I don't get arrested :-)

W

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