>dice- they just keep spinnin') to another listmember who said there was a
>certain little "secret pin" or something you have to remove first to be able to
>unscrew them. Unfortuneately he declined to elaborate on what that little
>"secret pin" was.                 ( methinks to spite me?!? )   Anyway, at

OK,  name names, if this info was witheld as a joke, fine, lets ALL hear it
now.   if there isn't any secret pin and someones feeling foolish, fine
also.  But if some smartass on the list is 'protecting' their knowledge,
out'em I say!!  We usually share freely enough on this list, little tidbits
are what makes life easier.  tim smith