So Tom Forhan says:
> I called the number Ron suggested. Though the rep was very
> knowlegable, he knew nothing about a Carver P4 or anything like
> it. We did talk about Propex, this outfit carries in stock a larger
> Propex line, the Propex X-1, 17x10x5", available in 1600(5200BTU) and
> 2600(8000BTU) models. Cost is 589.26 and 721.00 respectively. 
>                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Wow!  And it also looks like they don't hesitate to pass the cost of
shipping on to the consumer at all.  :o

Steven 
Sacramento, CA
sjohnson@pcocd2.intel.com