

| Subject: | Re: 87 Help AGAIN |
| Date: | Wed, 27 Nov 1996 09:31:00 -0800 |
I've got one experience with a bad catalytic converter and it did NOT exhibit the on-again/off-again symptoms Tonya is describing. It had melted and deformed (Late-model Rabbit, Owner hadn't thought the O2 sensor really *needed* to be replaced...) and was blocking the exhaust system. Idled so-so, made no power and ran terrible at increased rpm. It *seemed* like a distributor problem... surprise, a new distributor didn't help. However, its also easy enough to check Tonya's- its the shorter can just up-stream of the muffler, yes? 3 bolt-flanges on each end. Spooge some liquid wrence on the bolts, wait overnight, use brute force to remove three nuts on each end. Buy new gaskets and new bolts for re-assembly. There's no reason to not run without the catalyst for diagnostic purposes In the one that failed, you could look down the pipe and it looked all bloby and melted- like used chewing gum someone said at the time. Use your household vaccuum cleaner to check whether large quantities of air can flow through the converter. Check the muffler too as along as you're at it, although, again, the on-again-off-again nature of the problem suggests fuel/spark/timing problem rather than something purely mechanical. YMMV of course. If the catalyst element broke free and was rattling around in there, it might make for intermittant symptoms. In California its illegal to sell a used catalytic converter, only new ones are salable as parts. However, a 'donation' arangement was worked out in this case and a previously owned converter was given at about the same time as a 'donation' of $150 was made reciprocally. Tonya, after checking the catalyst, I see you've taken care of the obvious spark and fuel problems, and done things for the FI brain like new sensors. If it smells like raw gas when having a problem, then either its getting too much gas or not enough spark., but only once in a while. I'm inclined to suspect your electrical system, particularly since going into drive and coasting a short distance seems to 'fix' the problem. I'd check, and replace if I didn't like: 1: Transmission grounding strap 2: Battery cables- check BOTH ends 3: Idle-stabalizer- try disconnecting it and running without? 4: Ignition wire from key-switch to coil All should be clean, tight at both ends, etc. In a better world you could check-out diagnostic parts like library books, as long as you returned them in more-or-less as good condition as you got them. They'd have catalytic converters, all kinds of distributors, brain boxes, idle stabalizers, etc, etc. Oh well. Nice dream. Good luck! And keep us posted Bill
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