point well taken...but, of course, by definition of the WORD..."cab forward"
i'd say my cab just aint gonna get no farther forward..:)

then there is the wonderful dodge stratus..i think...that advertises the 
wide stance bit....now, not saying vw invented it, or even had it <i.e, 
early bsses.:)>

but i'l be DAMNED if it took 'em this long to figure it out.

gee...wider, lower, hmm...less prone to roll in tight corners, therefore 
all 4 tires hold even traction and hold the road better.......

of course, not saying that they never came up with anything good, either, 
although off the top of my head i cant quite think of anything...:)

....david

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On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, William A. Killian wrote:

> No disrespect but by Chryslers definition the rear engined buses are not 
> cab forward.  BUT...
> 
> Cab forward is the engine mushed as far forward as possible with the 
> wheels moved to the corners.  
> 
> Older buses had the engine obviously not pushed forward and the wheels 
> were not as far to the corners as possible.  Lets though look at the 
> newer VW buses.  Well engine is mushed as far forward as possible. and 
> the wheels are pegged to the corners.  SO the EV is cab forward.
> 
> Lookj at the slope of the hood on the various vans and minivans.  EV is 
> the sharpest rake of any non-rear or non-mid engined bus.
> 
> On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, David Raistrick wrote:
> 
> > yeah!! i rememrber that one now...
> > 
> > i was watching the Chrysler minivan commercial, andit said something 
> > about "more interior space " than (posssiblpy said) any car in its class 
> > "due to its cab forward design"
> > 
> > i started screaming at the TV of course...i tend to do that these days..
> > told the TV that hy ol' 69 has more interior space than it, with its REAL 
> > cab forward design..and that my 75 has even more, with its total lasck of 
> > interior...and roof...hmm...i think i was just in one of those moods, ou 
> > know?
> > 
> > ...david
> > 
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> > ex'74 Super 	        Links to a few pics of my VW's
> > ex '68 Beetle
> >     '75 Retired Westy-Canadian Model, Cody
> > '69 Westy-Itchigo				     xi8940@freenet.tlh.fl.us
> > <Pic's Coming Soon!>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, 3 Dec 1996 SyncroHead@aol.com wrote:
> > 
> > > In a message dated 96-12-01 18:07:35 EST, 102660.66@compuserve.com
> > > (Turner,Ronald L.) writes:
> > > 
> > > >Well....letseee here.....
> > > >They've "invented" the following so far....
> > > >
> > > >-"Ch**sler - We invented the Minivan"   (a.k.a. the sh*tbox)
> > > >- "Ch**sler - We've thought of everything" Introducing our revolutionary
> > > >concept
> > > >of  dual sliding doors on a van  (what a breakthru concept!!!)
> > > >-"Autostick transmission"   Duh, there's a first..... (Hmm....weren't they
> > > >the
> > > >ones who also came out with that push button auto trans? looks like that one
> > > >was
> > > >a real winner too)
> > > >-a (sorry excuse for a) Pickup truck with 3 doors....(or was that
> > > >chevr-oilet?)
> > > >
> > > >can anybody else think of any more of their "inventions"??
> > > 
> > > A BIG one!!  With the introduction of the Intrepid/Vision/& the Chrysler
> > > model I can't remember the name of, the touted their breakthrough design
> > > inovation of:
> > >                   "Cab-Forward design".  
> > > You want cab forward?  I got cab-forward!  All Vanagons have "cab-forward'".
> > >  All previous versions of VW's van have "cab-forward"!!!
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Jim Davis
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
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