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Subject:Re: Ch**slers "inventions"
From:Charles Michaux.
Date:Wed, 4 Dec 1996 07:51:06 -0500

My brother is always giving me a hard time about my vanagon and its "cab
forward" design, he says they have "just enough sheet metal in front to
break the wind"

Charles Michaux
'91 Westy (35K)
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> From: David Raistrick <xi8940@freenet.tlh.fl.us>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <vanagon@lenti.med.umn.edu>
> Subject: Re: Ch**slers "inventions"
> Date: Wednesday, December 04, 1996 1:46 AM
> 
> point well taken...but, of course, by definition of the WORD..."cab
forward"
> i'd say my cab just aint gonna get no farther forward..:)
> 
> 
> 
> then there is the wonderful dodge stratus..i think...that advertises the 
> wide stance bit....now, not saying vw invented it, or even had it <i.e, 
> early bsses.:)>
> 
> but i'l be DAMNED if it took 'em this long to figure it out.
> 
> gee...wider, lower, hmm...less prone to roll in tight corners, therefore 
> all 4 tires hold even traction and hold the road better.......
> 
> of course, not saying that they never came up with anything good, either,

> although off the top of my head i cant quite think of anything...:)
> 
> ...david
> 
> --
> !...........................
>                             The not so Keen
one.............................!
>   			http://www.armory.com/~y21cvb 
> ex'74 Super 	        Links to a few pics of my VW's
> ex '68 Beetle
>     '75 Retired Westy-Canadian Model, Cody
> '69 Westy-Itchigo				     xi8940@freenet.tlh.fl.us
> <Pic's Coming Soon!>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, William A. Killian wrote:
> 
> > No disrespect but by Chryslers definition the rear engined buses are
not 
> > cab forward.  BUT...
> > 
> > Cab forward is the engine mushed as far forward as possible with the 
> > wheels moved to the corners.  
> > 
> > Older buses had the engine obviously not pushed forward and the wheels 
> > were not as far to the corners as possible.  Lets though look at the 
> > newer VW buses.  Well engine is mushed as far forward as possible. and 
> > the wheels are pegged to the corners.  SO the EV is cab forward.
> > 
> > Lookj at the slope of the hood on the various vans and minivans.  EV is

> > the sharpest rake of any non-rear or non-mid engined bus.
> > 
> > On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, David Raistrick wrote:
> > 
> > > yeah!! i rememrber that one now...
> > > 
> > > i was watching the Chrysler minivan commercial, andit said something 
> > > about "more interior space " than (posssiblpy said) any car in its
class 
> > > "due to its cab forward design"
> > > 
> > > i started screaming at the TV of course...i tend to do that these
days..
> > > told the TV that hy ol' 69 has more interior space than it, with its
REAL 
> > > cab forward design..and that my 75 has even more, with its total
lasck of 
> > > interior...and roof...hmm...i think i was just in one of those moods,
ou 
> > > know?
> > > 
> > > ...david
> > > 
> > > --
> > > !...........................
> > >                             The not so Keen
one.............................!
> > >   			http://www.armory.com/~y21cvb 
> > > ex'74 Super 	        Links to a few pics of my VW's
> > > ex '68 Beetle
> > >     '75 Retired Westy-Canadian Model, Cody
> > > '69 Westy-Itchigo				     xi8940@freenet.tlh.fl.us
> > > <Pic's Coming Soon!>
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 3 Dec 1996 SyncroHead@aol.com wrote:
> > > 
> > > > In a message dated 96-12-01 18:07:35 EST, 102660.66@compuserve.com
> > > > (Turner,Ronald L.) writes:
> > > > 
> > > > >Well....letseee here.....
> > > > >They've "invented" the following so far....
> > > > >
> > > > >-"Ch**sler - We invented the Minivan"   (a.k.a. the sh*tbox)
> > > > >- "Ch**sler - We've thought of everything" Introducing our
revolutionary
> > > > >concept
> > > > >of  dual sliding doors on a van  (what a breakthru concept!!!)
> > > > >-"Autostick transmission"   Duh, there's a first.....
(Hmm....weren't they
> > > > >the
> > > > >ones who also came out with that push button auto trans? looks
like that one
> > > > >was
> > > > >a real winner too)
> > > > >-a (sorry excuse for a) Pickup truck with 3 doors....(or was that
> > > > >chevr-oilet?)
> > > > >
> > > > >can anybody else think of any more of their "inventions"??
> > > > 
> > > > A BIG one!!  With the introduction of the Intrepid/Vision/& the
Chrysler
> > > > model I can't remember the name of, the touted their breakthrough
design
> > > > inovation of:
> > > >                   "Cab-Forward design".  
> > > > You want cab forward?  I got cab-forward!  All Vanagons have
"cab-forward'".
> > > >  All previous versions of VW's van have "cab-forward"!!!
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Jim Davis
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > bill and diane killian
> > zen and the art of ferrets
> > mailto:killian@zenferret.com  mailto:killian@mnsinc.com
> > http://www.zenferret.com/
> > 
> >