In a message dated 97-02-28 20:07:49 EST, vince_pappalardo@om.cv.hp.com
writes:

<<  but I have 
      seen other 85's that have square.
       >>

They were probably swapped out of a '86 up van.

I've never seen a '85 w square from the factory, but have seen early vans
with the squares people added. I'm going to put squares in my '84, myself.

chris