In a message dated 97-12-03 20:00:34 EST, cdes@WELCHLINK.WELCH.JHU.EDU
writes:

<< manuals RULE,
 my uncle has an 85 gl auto with a conpletely new tranny, but the darned
 thing won't accelerate worth a lick.
  >>

People - I was talking about reliability here - not performance...
there is NO DOUBT that the Automatics hold up better, and last longer than
the Manual transmissions...
IF I WANT A LOW 0-60 TIME, I WILL BUY A FORMULA ONE RACER...
Vanagons are big metal un-aerodynamic lousy coefficient wind drag boxes on
wheels....
not race cars...

but then again, how much krap/camping gear, etc. can you fit into a Formula
One Racer???  ;<)

chris