

| Subject: | Head Corrosion prevention Discussion |
| From: | mark keller |
| Date: | Fri, 12 Dec 1997 06:53:56 -0400 |
>Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 05:34:39 -0400 >To:vanagon@lenti.med.umn.edu >From:kelphoto@bright.net (mark keller) >Subject:Head Corrosion prevention Discussion > >Well, > >I am still in search of data that explains why some heads are replaced >because of corrosion,and other's have no leaking problems what so ever. >This differance, suggest to me a variable exists. > > I reinspected the "non-leaking" heads which my local VW dealer has. The >corrosion and pitting are limited to the contact area of the outside >perimeter seal. The corresion is very consistent both around the seal >contact and "across the seal" contact. An area of corrosion was present >exactly beneath the seal, not just inside the, where coolant and seal >meet, but the complete width of contact area. There were about five pitted >craters, .1mm deep x .2mm across, in random areas. On one head the >corrosion seemed wider, but not any more advanced, in the region from the >water hose nipple, as opposed to the side which a flange is bolted to. >This region is essentially extended from the compression chamber edge >closesest to the narrow end of the head. > >There was no corrosion whatsoever on any areas that had coolant flow. Tim >Smith posted about "crevice corrosion" being the actual name given to the >situation where coolant that gets trapped beneath the outer waterjacket >seal, and then quickly becomes depleted in its anti-corrosive properties, >and accelerated corresion occurs at the point of contact, in this case, >beneath the flexiable outer seal. > >I still can't come to a conclusion about how the coolant gets beneath the seal. > > It would seem that if seal edge is curled up,as indicated by not being >100% backed up, coolant flow is still presents. > >Another possibility, If the head contact "flexes at the seal" between cold >and hot tempatures, ie the contact point of the head and the seal is >"rocking" back and forth by virture of expansion, then some coolant could >be present at the region, of shifted contacted, and there is a trapping of >coolant. > > Another possibility would be in driving conditions where the motor is >continually in a low operating eniviorment, trips of 6 miles or less and >or not driven on a daily basis, a kind of "coolant caking" may occur. >Coolant would cake,thicken, or otherwise get seperated from his buddies, >and quickly lose anticorrsive strenth, and start muchin on aluminum, aka >crevice corrosion, and then remain at a corrosive state, until the engine >was brought up to operatining temperature and driven for some period of >time that in essence disolved the cake and then replenshied the >anti-corrosive properties by allowing fresh coolant to move into the area. > >The tech mentioned that re-torquing the head was a precaution he >practiced, he babbled somthing to the effect that heat cycling, ie hot & >cold cycles of normal operation was a factor in reducing the torque of >the head bolt. I have no input on this. Would sombody email me about it. > >My current theory of "hydraulic pressure", generated by the water pump, >which forces coolant beneath the seal before the engine warms up is still >a possibility. > >At this point, I would like to suggest that anyone interested in helping >in any way and those having experience to do multivariate regression >analysis, contact me. The idea would be to get a response questionaire to >"profile" listees who have had multiple corrosive failures, and those who >have had no problems. This would move us from theory, to variables which >correlate to corrosive head failures. I'll post this request separately, >incase a interested party in helping doesn't read the techno theroy >pieces. > Respectfully, Mark Keller 91" Carat WE "Lazarus"
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